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As an iPad 3 owner I never felt shafted but I will LMAO if it's released on March. Karma baby. :cool:

Why? You want iPad 4 owners to feel the same burn you felt, ridiculous. It's like they peed in the fatty 30pin port of your ipad 3.
 
The Lightning adapter has lots of benefits over the old adapter, size being the easiest one to see and understand, its silly to make the changing of a 10 year old plug to a much better next generation plug capable of much faster transfers into a big conspiracy.

That's just it the adapter isnt any faster its a simple size change. Honestly I dont have a problem with changing the adapter but to horde the adapter for months after its release is incredibly selfish and greedy. Hurts consumers and 3rd party hardware developers.
 
That's just it the adapter isnt any faster its a simple size change. Honestly I dont have a problem with changing the adapter but to horde the adapter for months after its release is incredibly selfish and greedy. Hurts consumers and 3rd party hardware developers.

This Apple we're talking about...

when did they ever care about letting consumers have choices and others from making money?
 
You know what would be cool? An iPad with the same dimensions as the current one, but where the screen fills out the massive bezel (or most of it, anyway) going almost to the edge :cool: I’d buy that.
 
As an iPad 3 owner I never felt shafted but I will LMAO if it's released on March. Karma baby. :cool:

When then iPad 4 came out never got the buzz to buy it but I was reading comments from iPad 2 owners saying " iPad 3 owners thanks for testing the retina display" P.S iPad 4 owner... boy did that piss me off for a second =P but I guess in March I'll be thanking them for testing A6X holding my new new new iPad :cool::cool::apple:
 
That's just it the adapter isnt any faster its a simple size change. Honestly I dont have a problem with changing the adapter but to horde the adapter for months after its release is incredibly selfish and greedy. Hurts consumers and 3rd party hardware developers.

No iEvolution, its not just a size change, right now hooked up to USB 2, its not any faster, however once they hook it to USB 3, Firewire 200/400/800 or Thunderbolt, it will be significantly faster. The 30 pin connector was used for 10 years, now a smaller, better, faster connector was needed and this is it. As for the rest, how exactly were consumers hurt? Every consumer who bought a device got a USB to Lightning cable, our Apple store has NEVER not had extra ones in stock. As for the 3rd party developers, 60,000 counterfeit cables were seized in Alaska last week, so someone is getting alot of parts, and why exactly do you think Apple is hording anything (they don't make the connectors) and why exactly is this mythical hording selfish and greedy.
 
I'm really anxious for the redesigned iPad. It should be the mother of all tablets if Apple were to pull it of before summer. According to the rumors, it will be smaller, thinner and lighter than the iPad 2 but probably with the power of the iPad 4.

That would be a big deal. The current iPad is already much better than any competitors when it comes to screen quality, battery life and weight, the fifth iPad would make this lead even stronger.

However, Apple needs to do something to 'revive' the ecosystem. Somehow I have the feeling the ecosystem for the iPad has stopped improving. Like everything already has been done. I like the idea of Newsstand, but it has never really kicked off... Somehow I get the feeling there is much more potential out there.
 
So, $1.000.000 question... What if iPad 5 will "only" be thinner and lighter with not significant hardware improvements, assuming that the new policy is to release two tablets every year, a minor and a major upgrade. What if the iPad 5 is just the minor upgrade? Would you buy it, or again as it happens with the iPad 4, are you going to wait the iPad 6?

In this case, thinner and lighter *is* a major update. Apple can triple the processor speed and double the ram and what possible difference would it make? Webpages would open slightly faster?
 
Hola.

So, in terms of March, historically when have Apple announced that something is being revealed in March? Weeks before? A month before?

I can't remember from previous years. Reason I ask is my birthday is at the end of Jan, missus is giving me the £ for an ipad 4. Not owned one before, exciting times etc etc. I've already decided that pragmatically, there will always be a better or newer ipad on the horizon, so no point living in a perpetual bubble. So 'buy it now if you need it now' is a pretty solid philosophy. However...(oh look at me contradicting myself) if there is a March Apple announcement, I'd probably wait that extra month or so.
 
Hola.

So, in terms of March, historically when have Apple announced that something is being revealed in March? Weeks before? A month before?

I can't remember from previous years. Reason I ask is my birthday is at the end of Jan, missus is giving me the £ for an ipad 4. Not owned one before, exciting times etc etc. I've already decided that pragmatically, there will always be a better or newer ipad on the horizon, so no point living in a perpetual bubble. So 'buy it now if you need it now' is a pretty solid philosophy. However...(oh look at me contradicting myself) if there is a March Apple announcement, I'd probably wait that extra month or so.

Rule of thumb for me is to buy the next available kit rather than the current model unless it was updated within the last 1-2 months. The iPad 4 is no longer in that window so if I wanted to buy a new iPad i'd wait for the next release cycle.
 
If that release is the summer or 'the fall' then that's a little too long to wait. I guess the voice in the back of my head is saying 'wait until March' but then if nothings announced...

Oh, Apple must love our anti-Tyer Durden consumer obsessions.
 
Rule of thumb for me is to buy the next available kit rather than the current model unless it was updated within the last 1-2 months. The iPad 4 is no longer in that window so if I wanted to buy a new iPad i'd wait for the next release cycle.

These products don't perish that quickly - with your rule of thumb, you end up waiting 10-11 months on a product with a yearly cycle, and up to 16 or 17 months for a product that is upgraded after 18 months.

I'd suggest turning your rule of thumb on its head (and flip the window), and if it's within a month or two of it's normal upgrade cycle, wait 1 or 2 months (2 is maximum) for the new product - in that window it's logical to expect to see some solid rumours indicating the new product is indeed coming.

We're now within 2 months of what some (not me) think will be the next iPad refresh, yet there haven't been any credible rumours (or quantity of rumours either) that a March refresh is imminent. I'm still believing it's safe to assume a March refresh is not going to happen.
 
These products don't perish that quickly - with your rule of thumb, you end up waiting 10-11 months on a product with a yearly cycle, and up to 16 or 17 months for a product that is upgraded after 18 months.

I'd suggest turning your rule of thumb on its head (and flip the window), and if it's within a month or two of it's normal upgrade cycle, wait 1 or 2 months (2 is maximum) for the new product - in that window it's logical to expect to see some solid rumours indicating the new product is indeed coming.

We're now within 2 months of what some (not me) think will be the next iPad refresh, yet there haven't been any credible rumours (or quantity of rumours either) that a March refresh is imminent. I'm still believing it's safe to assume a March refresh is not going to happen.
No one including Apple knows their release schedule anymore. After the release of the iPad 4 we can't say for sure the iPad 5 will release in 12 months. Even Tim Cook eluded to that releases may come quicker than the past. So I'll patiently wait for the iPad 5.
 
No one including Apple knows their release schedule anymore. After the release of the iPad 4 we can't say for sure the iPad 5 will release in 12 months. Even Tim Cook eluded to that releases may come quicker than the past. So I'll patiently wait for the iPad 5.

Your patience astounds me (seriously, I'm very impressed!) because I think if I wait 2 months I've demonstrated the patience of a saint<grin>, but potentially 8-9 months to wait for something (from this point assuming a Sept/Oct release, if you were wanting an iPad), I'd already have to own a version with which I'm very happy or not be bothered about upgrades with said product (e.g. the AppleTV - I've upgraded it once from gen1 to gen2 after gen2 had been out awhile, but have no plans to upgrade to ATV3, but maybe gen 4, I'll wait and see, not bothered).

No one may know release schedules anymore, true (not that we ever really did know them), but Apple products have generally not been on a 6-month refresh cycle to my knowledge, meaning that with your timing, waiting will generally have been 8-10 months for every product (minimum). That's a lot of waiting if you want a product is my point. It may change to a quicker release cycle in the future - we'll know more in the next month (2 max), but I wouldn't hold my breath. ;)
 
Surely one indicator is that the current A6 chip isn't even being used by software/app developers yet to the extent of its capabilities? Real Racing 3 is out in late Feb. I know apps are being updated to take advantage of its power but would you not expect the next ipad to have a faster chip - therefore makes more sense its a summer/September release?

If the new one is just a design change (i.e. slimmer, lighter, no bezel so you can't even hold the damn thing) - makes you wonder why they didn't just do it when the mini came out (along with the lightning connector) so all pads look the same. This could indicate that they didn't because that will be the next update...a design refresh in March before a full one in September.

But then why not just update all of it in September so it feels like a bigger step?

My head hurts. I'll shut up now.
 
If something fulfills yours needs now then buy it. Don't hold off for something when a. We don't know then it will be released and b. We don't know the specification.
I personally would only hold off for something if I knew exactly when it would be available and I knew exactly what I would be getting.
 
Hola.

So, in terms of March, historically when have Apple announced that something is being revealed in March? Weeks before? A month before?

I can't remember from previous years. Reason I ask is my birthday is at the end of Jan, missus is giving me the £ for an ipad 4. Not owned one before, exciting times etc etc. I've already decided that pragmatically, there will always be a better or newer ipad on the horizon, so no point living in a perpetual bubble. So 'buy it now if you need it now' is a pretty solid philosophy. However...(oh look at me contradicting myself) if there is a March Apple announcement, I'd probably wait that extra month or so.

With this last release I'd assume ipads have been moved to the fall. Buy now. In the past there are the beginnings of part leaks by now if a new ipad was in march.
 
Hola.

So, in terms of March, historically when have Apple announced that something is being revealed in March? Weeks before? A month before?

I can't remember from previous years. Reason I ask is my birthday is at the end of Jan, missus is giving me the £ for an ipad 4. Not owned one before, exciting times etc etc. I've already decided that pragmatically, there will always be a better or newer ipad on the horizon, so no point living in a perpetual bubble. So 'buy it now if you need it now' is a pretty solid philosophy. However...(oh look at me contradicting myself) if there is a March Apple announcement, I'd probably wait that extra month or so.

Apple only really announce things a few weeks before it goes on sale. Its hard to predict when they'll release the next ipad but its likely to be somewhere between March and December 2013 and that's about as specific anyone can be without speculating. They're generally unpredictable with product releases.
 
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