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iPhone 5s Reportedly Outselling iPhone 5c Two-to-One Since Launch

macnerd93 said:
Well yeah, who wants a phone worse than an iPhone 5 in terms of design?
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IMO the 5c is actually a better design. The curved plastic and solid feel of the 5c is much nicer to hold than the sharp square edges of the 5/5s.

But... I'd feel like a chump buying one when the 5s is only slightly more expensive, yet has specs that are a generation ahead. If the price gap were, say, £120-£150 rather than the £50-£90 it is now, things would look a lot different.
 
Design a high-end phone, launch it with inferior models and watch sales of the high-end version skyrocket. Brilliant!

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Maybe it's because the 5c is an overpriced piece of last years hardware? I know a lot of people say that people who buy the 5c don't care about having the latest and greatest, but it's not about that. It's about being fiscally responsible. The 5c is just a terrible value for your money.
 
what's that? a new phone is outselling the last year's model? you don't say.

now if 5c was a fully unlocked phone that cost $250-350 without a contract, then i'd like to see what the sales figures would be like.
 
zgh1999 said:
If Tim Cook thinks people are stupid enough to buy cheap plastic phones that are essentially past year's old product dressed in different colors, he should get his head checked.

That dude can't get anything right.

Needs to get replaced as CEO of Apple ASAP.
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I don't understand your fake outrage. Isn't it a good thing that the high end model is outselling the lower end model?
 
Hmm... Actually that sounds like the 5c is a success?

I doubt that the 4S:5 sales were 1:2 at the 5 launch? If the 5c at all improved things there (it's really mostly just the previous phone model) and it has a better profit margin than the 4S, that's good for Apple in two ways.
 
The 5c is going to appeal more to people who are not yet smart phone buyers and ones who are going to take their time upgrading when their contracts are up.

Early adopters tend to be more enthusiasts and tech savvy and thus would prefer the 5s to the 5c. I'm sure in the next few months the 5c will gain some ground.
 
zgh1999 said:
If Tim Cook thinks people are stupid enough to buy cheap plastic phones that are essentially past year's old product dressed in different colors, he should get his head checked.
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With the new LTE chipset the 5C is still competitive. But not every potential buyer likes there bright colors. Same might have preferred gray, dark gray or black.
 
This makes sense, and many of the tech sites and blogs predicted this. Based on their logic (which I agree with) the 5S will garner more attention from people looking to get the latest from Apple for the first couple months. They feel that the 5C will gain more attention from new Smartphone customers, or converts from older entry level Android phones as time goes on.

This makes sense to me, as most people buying iPhones at launch, are current customers that were waiting for the new faster models to come out, to replace their older 4, 4S & 5 Models.
 
When the iPhone 5 launched the iPhone 4 was free with contract and made up 9% of sales. The iPhone 4S was 23% and the 5 lead with 68%. That seemed normal to everyone.

Now the 5S is 64%, the 5C is 27% and the 4S is 9%.

So, the real story is that a slight change to the look of the mid tier device (in the absence of change in the flagship) has resulted in a slight increase in it's sales.

People who want the free one are still taking it at the same rate, but people who don't care to pony up for top of the line are more willing to take a mid tier device that has been refreshed.

This is all very remarkable.
 
zgh1999 said:
If Tim Cook thinks people are stupid enough to buy cheap plastic phones that are essentially past year's old product dressed in different colors, he should get his head checked.
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But... But... It seems to work out that way?

This article just said that the 5c isn't selling that bad?

Two 5s per 5c sounds pretty expected assuming both models are successes, given that Apple is a premium brand.

I thought the 5c would do much worse, like 1 5c per 4 5s or something. I mean... It doesn't even look like a premium product.

Maybe we just had different expectations...
 
blackcrayon said:
I don't understand your fake outrage. Isn't it a good thing that the high end model is outselling the lower end model?
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Northgrove said:
Hmm... Actually that sounds like the 5c is a success?

I doubt that the 4S:5 sales were 1:2 at the 5 launch? If the 5c at all improved things there (it's really mostly just the previous phone model) and it has a better profit margin than the 4S, that's good for Apple in two ways.
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Yep! I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is bad news for Apple. :)
 
macnerd93 said:
Well yeah, who wants a phone worse than an iPhone 5 in terms of design? it's a good marketing strategy to be honest, to drive sales of the 5S.
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To be fair the 5 was badly designed in that it was far too easy to scratch and was made of a very soft alloy of Aluminium making it very fragile. It was also a disaster from a manufacturing perspective with a very high rework rate. From what I have seen of the 5C its a much better phone in these respects so I would say that the 5C is at least as good if not better than the 5 especially for the less careful user. I think the price is currently too high although I suspect that after Christmas the price will fall to free on contract for the base model with most carriers.
 
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A more interesting statistic would be how many of the iPhone 5C users have come from another mobile OS, and how many have upgraded from a previous iPhone iteration..

A friend of mine got the 5C because it’s free on contract (in the UK) and the 5S was £100, and she wanted the pink colour..
 
There is a good reason for this. The 5C is targeted at "regular" people, the non-tech interested users. In the first weeks since launch, we'll always see the innovators and early adopters splashing the cash first, and they will want the latest and greatest. I predict that it will even out over time, when the product adoption reach a larger crowd.
 
BaldiMac said:
Yep! I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is bad news for Apple. :)
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I got to this part now, too:
However, a report from last week stated that the iPhone 5c finished second in sales over the month of September at US carriers AT&T and Sprint, and finished within the top three in sales at all four major carriers, which suggests that the lower-cost iPhone is at least selling fairly well.
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I definitely thought this one would trail way behind popular phones like Samsung Galaxy S4.

This bears no signs of a failure to me.
 
Of Course

What would be a compelling reason to get a 5C over the 5S? It's the same phone only with different colors and cheaper materials - but not a cheap enough price to justify the difference.
 
5s

This is ridiculous. Instead of launching and supplying iphones in other countries, why isn't Apple quickly fulfilling orders from a month ago? Finish what you have before offering anything else. My phone is still not scheduled to be shipped until the beginning of November and that is asinine. This company is getting me more pissed off each and every day. :mad:
 
Northgrove said:
I got to this part now, too:

I definitely thought this one would trail way behind popular phones like Samsung Galaxy S4.

This bears no signs of a failure to me.
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It finished second or third in sales at major US carriers for September despite being only available for 11 days of the month.
 
This is how one should see the numbers, how many would a regular 5 have sold? A 5 with a more expensive case? A case that takes much longer to make. How much would it have cannibalized sales of the premium 5s?
When you look at it this way, I think the 5c strategy worked out perfectly, no cannibalization and higher margins from those who did buy it. A huge win for Apple.
 
Reason077 said:
IMO the 5c is actually a better design. The curved plastic and solid feel of the 5c is much nicer to hold than the sharp square edges of the 5/5s.

But... I'd feel like a chump buying one when the 5s is only slightly more expensive, yet has specs that are a generation ahead. If the price gap were, say, £120-£150 rather than the £50-£90 it is now, things would look a lot different.
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I think it looks pretty awful In person like it's constantly wrapped in a cheap case. The 5 is much more classier in terms of aesthetics. .
 
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