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amj23

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I'm planning on buying the new MacBook pro retina 13" (mbp) and it's time I decide what specs I want and need.

I'd want to know the difference between the 2.4GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5 and the 2.8GHz Dual-core Intel Core i7. Is it really big? I primarily play Minecraft on high settings and love when it's really smooth. (no lag) I'll also be doing the casual word processing and what not.

I'd also wish to know whether I should rather spend the money on 16 gb of ram or if the processor is more worth it.

All answers are greatly appreciated and thank you in advance. ;-)
 
400 MHz is a significant jump IMO.

I also wouldn't buy a non-upgradeable computer with 8 gigs of RAM going into 2014. 8 might be fine now, but who knows how much hungrier future OSs and software will get. Always max out the ram, the price isn't that bad from Apple this time. Then again I am hoping my wife uses the machine for 3-5 years.

<---2.8/16/512 13" rMBP on order for the wife
 
400 MHz is a significant jump IMO.

I also wouldn't buy a non-upgradeable computer with 8 gigs of RAM going into 2014. 8 might be fine now, but who knows how much hungrier future OSs and software will get. Always max out the ram, the price isn't that bad from Apple this time. Then again I am hoping my wife uses the machine for 3-5 years.

<---2.8/16/512 13" rMBP on order for the wife

$200 to add 8 GB of memory is ridiculous. It should be $100.
 
There are a ton of threads from the last 24 hours asking similar questions.

The best answer I've found so far is from:
So $1499 13" is the best bang for the buck? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1657556/

But here's some extra info I dug up via Wiki regarding the processors (the MHz numbers represent GPU clock speed):
  • i5 2.4GHz = Iris 5100 (GT3) | 1100MHz | 3MB L3 | +$0
  • i5 2.6GHz = Iris 5100 (GT3) | 1200MHz | 3MB L3 | +$100
  • i7 2.8GHz = Iris 5100 (GT3) | 1200MHz | 4MB L3 | +$300
So essentially you can get the higher GPU clock speed for an extra $100, but lose out on the additional L3 cache (which can be fairly important for CPU intensive tasks). An additional $300 seems too much for the i7 for my uses, that's for sure.

And Geekbench scores tell you % wise what the difference is:

13-inch with dual-core CPU:
- i5-4258U @ 2.4 GHz: Single-Core 2613, Multi-Core 5248
- i5-4288U @ 2.6 GHz: Single-Core 2856, Multi-Core 5954
- i7-4558U @ 2.8 GHz: Single-Core 3000, Multi-Core 6189

Per these scores:
Comparing the 2.6 i5 to the 2.4 i5:
  • 9.3% faster for Single-Core
  • 13.5% faster for Multi-Core.
Comparing the 2.8 i7 to 2.4 i5:
  • 14.8% faster for Single-Core
  • 17.9% faster for Multi-Core.
Comparing the 2.8 i7 to the 2.6 i5:
  • 5.0% faster for Single-Core
  • 3.9% faster for Multi-Core.

So the 2.6 GHz i5 definitely seems to be the best % increase per $. Both the 2.6 i5 and 2.8 i7 give you the 9.1% speed boost to the Iris 5100 graphics frequency over the 2.4. The i7 also gives you 25% more L3 cache, which may be useful depending on how CPU intensive your work is.


I'm in a similar situation trying to decide what I want. I know I'm at least buying the top-end 13" configuration (2.6/8/512 for $1799). I can't decide if I want to spend the extra $200 each for 16 GB of RAM and/or the upgrade to the 2.8 i7.

On the one hand, I doubt really think I need either upgrade for my planned uses: browsing, document creation, editing photos and short videos for a blog, maybe the occasional windows GPS trip planning software via VMWare Fusion. Buying a "stock" model means I can pick it up in store, and should I have warranty issues get a replacement more quickly.

On the other hand, I would be annoyed if in a couple years I'm running up against RAM or CPU limits, and need to replace the machine with a new one...

I'd like to buy soon, but don't need to immediately. I can wait to see video benchmarks and learn if there's any speed differences between the 2.6 i5 and 2.8 i5 in terms of the Iris 5100 performance.
 
In real world performance is 400 MHz noticeable?

Depends on your use, but for a couple hundred bucks I think it's worth it.

$200 to add 8 GB of memory is ridiculous. It should be $100.

I disagree. For years it was $200 to go from 2 to 4 or 4 to 8 gigs. Comparatively, 8 gigs for 200 right out of the box is a deal.

You're buying Apple, pay to play, you know that.
 
Per these scores:
Comparing the 2.6 i5 to the 2.4 i5:
  • 9.3% faster for Single-Core
  • 13.5% faster for Multi-Core.
Comparing the 2.8 i7 to 2.4 i5:
  • 14.8% faster for Single-Core
  • 17.9% faster for Multi-Core.
Comparing the 2.8 i7 to the 2.6 i5:
  • 5.0% faster for Single-Core
  • 3.9% faster for Multi-Core.

I've seen these numbers. But what do they really mean in reality. What does the difference mean... Faster yes but in what case ?
 
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