Depends on how you look at it. I used a iPhone 4 without a case for 2 years and never dropped a call. Neither did my wife. You come on to this site during any new product or software release and it's always the end of the world. Yet the same people keep buying the new stuff then complain again.
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iPad mini Does my rMini screen look under-saturated?
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Depends on how you look at it. I used a iPhone 4 without a case for 2 years and never dropped a call. Neither did my wife. You come on to this site during any new product or software release and it's always the end of the world. Yet the same people keep buying the new stuff then complain again.
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No. It doesn't matter which manufacturer the panel is coming from, Apple sets the specs and the manufacturers have to meet them. There might be slight variation, but not much. The iPad Air has something close to 110% sRGB whereas this panel is sitting around 60% sRGB.
Before you bring up the tint/panel uniformity issues, Apple (and every other OEM), has obviously been far less stringent on the perceived coolness or warmth of the display, as well as overall uniformity, as we've clearly seen over the years. On the other hand, something like colour gamut is a strict spec that must be met by the manufacturer, and I don't think anyone's ever seen variances of more than few percent, let alone something perceivable by the average user (which in the case of 110% vs 60% sRGB it obviously is).
Sorry to say, but you're nuts if you think that Apple is going ship clearly lower gamut displays alongside much more saturated higher gamut displays and market them as the same product.
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But do we truly know for certain that the first batch of rMinis are what Apple intends to continue to deliver? Do we know for a fact that 60% is the spec and not the reason behind the big mysterious delay and low yield chatter?
You're a baker and you get hired to make 1000 cupcakes for a wedding at 2pm on a Saturday. You have just enough ingredients for 1000 cupcakes, and have just enough time to bake them.
If your first 250 cupcakes come out slightly weird looking, the first 250 guests are getting slightly weird looking cupcakes. Period.
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Read the last part of my post which I've edited in. Thanks for the analogy to help me understand it better though, I couldn't wrap my head around it until you put it in the terms of cupcakes or cookies or whatever you were talking about.
Shipping different displays in the same product with completely different end results is nothing new to Apple. The MacBook Air>LG vs Samsung issue from 2010 or 2011 comes to mind.
And they're also none too shy about shipping blue tinted screens alongside yellow tinted screens, and with the Air, blue and yellow in the same screen.
I think you're giving them a little too much credit.
Before 2012, practically all portable LCD displays had a gamut much smaller than 100% sRGB. Why? Most likely because a smaller gamut requires less power. It's not a defect.
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syd430
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I think you didn't read my post, because I already mentioned the tint issue. All OEM's do it, and this is even before super high res panels like the Retina display. Shipping a panel with 60% sRGB and then suddenly shipping one with 110% sRGB and then saying it's the same product is probably grounds for a class action lawsuit. They are two completely different panels.
Looking at it pragmatically, OEM's have been able to get away with tint variations, as you can simply play the lottery game and keep exchanging until you get one you like. These panels also generally meet the same specs and cost the same to produce. Shipping a much lower spec'd cheaper panel and then later switching to a much higher spec'd expensive panel and claiming that it's the same product isn't going to happen. You might want to keep that tin foil hat on though, I hear that there's even a few rMini's in circulation with the same low res panel from the original mini being sold by Apple across the street from a retirement village.
Ok I get it now. Your reasoned answers are good, but your snarky comments need help. If you're gonna be a d*ck, at least be good at it like me.
I understand syd430 is being a dick, but he's trying to get his point across considering the circumstances.
I've been on the fence on the rMini for a bit now and would love to purchase one, tonight in store, if possible, but this color gamut situation is pissing me off considering i've owned the 3rd gen Retina iPad and love having the appropriate colors... this tim around however I was hoping to go with the smaller form factor and ease of portability, but not like this. Not like this knowing my rMini screen is sub-par... especially when it comes to editing photos and getting the color settings just right.
The other thing I am thinking is the yellow was always attributed to the glue. Might be something that gets better after its used for a bit. I don't imagine these sat very long in stock rooms. The Air probably was sitting for a week or two, maybe a month, before the announcement.
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syd430
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I love this site. Never have I ever witnessed more neurotic behavior, and I'm right in there, too. I think my rMini looks great, and this very thread is either a troll campaign or a dimwitted question.Regardless, let's picket. Gamut-gate. Gamut-gate. Please, comment on it until the next shipment of rMinis tomorrow.
