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Official 2007 MLB Season Thread

Sayhey said:
But my finely tuned insult detector thinks you might be taking a shot at the Giants' farm system? Actually we've had lots of pitching prospects over the last decade or so, most of who are gone in trades, but few position players coming out of the minors. That's not terribly surprising as the Giants have been drafting pitchers with their high picks for a very long time. If Lincecum takes over for Morris, the Giants will have 4/5 ths of the rotation coming from their own ranks, and much of the bullpen is homegrown (Sanchez, Taschner, Hennessey, and Correia.) With Lowe, Schmidt, Penny, Wolf, and Tomko as your starting rotation, I don't see any home grown talent until you get to the pen. There you at least have Billingsley and Broxton, who are good arms signed and developed out of the Dodgers' system.
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Actually no, that wasn't really intended as an insult. Yes, I meant that the Giants have more guys with major-league potential now than than in recent years, but I was really comparing to the Dodgers farm system turnaround. We went a long period where the prospects were traded away or didn't pan out. (Thank you, Kevin Malone.) Off the top of my head, Adrian Beltre is the only one I can think of from that era that was highly touted and stuck around in the majors for several years. The last few years the Dodgers farm system has done pretty well, ranked near the top for two or three years now. But it's easy to get impatient when the new guys that you've heard about finally come up to the show. I would say that the Dodgers' young guys are doing fairly well so far, but the team is still heavily dependent on free agents.

I realize now I wasn't explicit enough in my point: having good minor-leaguers doesn't mean they'll be good major-leaguers, and even if they are, it doesn't mean the team will win more games, much less contend.

Now here's my little insult to you, since you were waiting for it: maybe you're really, really hoping the young guys kick butt soon because if they don't, then a Giants team without Bonds' homers will suck big time? :D
 
Yankees sweep the Rangers, and what happened to Dice-K, 5 runs in the first.:eek: :D
 
Dice K is trying to throw too many kinds of pitches,without any location on them. He needs to focus on getting a couple down really good before going all over the place.Not exactly a pitching exhibition last nite...
 
fotografica said:
Dice K is trying to throw too many kinds of pitches,without any location on them. He needs to focus on getting a couple down really good before going all over the place.Not exactly a pitching exhibition last nite...
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I thought the reason everyone wanted this guy was because he was really good, now they are saying he doesn't know how to control his pitches? I really think he was over hyped, I have not seen overpowering stuff.
 
aloofman said:
Actually no, that wasn't really intended as an insult. Yes, I meant that the Giants have more guys with major-league potential now than than in recent years, but I was really comparing to the Dodgers farm system turnaround. We went a long period where the prospects were traded away or didn't pan out. (Thank you, Kevin Malone.) Off the top of my head, Adrian Beltre is the only one I can think of from that era that was highly touted and stuck around in the majors for several years. The last few years the Dodgers farm system has done pretty well, ranked near the top for two or three years now. But it's easy to get impatient when the new guys that you've heard about finally come up to the show. I would say that the Dodgers' young guys are doing fairly well so far, but the team is still heavily dependent on free agents.

I realize now I wasn't explicit enough in my point: having good minor-leaguers doesn't mean they'll be good major-leaguers, and even if they are, it doesn't mean the team will win more games, much less contend.

Now here's my little insult to you, since you were waiting for it: maybe you're really, really hoping the young guys kick butt soon because if they don't, then a Giants team without Bonds' homers will suck big time? :D
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I hope you know I was just messing with you about the "insults." Taking shots at each other's favorite teams is what this thread is all about, isn't it? :D

I know the caution towards minor league players is valid, but it is hard not to throw caution to the wind in Lincecum's case. We may see very shortly as, as Silencio noted, Ortiz is on the DL and all the rumors are the Giants will call up Timmy to pitch his start.*

And, yes, I'm worried how bad the Giants will be in a "post-Bondsian" world. Although, that era seems to be postponed a little based on Barry's current stats. If the Giants have the pitching I think they will have, maybe they won't be so bad, but I don't see where the young hitting stars are right now - unless you look at the Giants' low minors (Vilalona, etc.) Perhaps we will have a team built like the Dodgers of the 60s - all pitching and defense with little in the way of power hitters? I'd take the same results of those teams. After all, turn about is fair play, isn't it? ;)

*edit: today's Chronicle confirms Lincecum will pitch on Sunday.
 
Chien-Ming Wong pitched a perfect game into the 8th inning before giving up a home run to Ben Broussard
 
MacNut said:
I thought the reason everyone wanted this guy was because he was really good, now they are saying he doesn't know how to control his pitches? I really think he was over hyped, I have not seen overpowering stuff.
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He's still just a rookie.
 
The Don Ditty said:
Uhhh, if memory serves me right didn't they win the World Baseball Classic? I wouldn't exactly be calling Japan the Minor Leagues there.
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Yes, but that was an all-star team. I'm not saying Japan is bad, I'm just saying it's not the same as the major leagues.

Give Daisuke a year or so. He's still adjusting to life in the USA and playing in MLB.
 
zioxide said:
Yes, but that was an all-star team. I'm not saying Japan is bad, I'm just saying it's not the same as the major leagues.

Give Daisuke a year or so. He's still adjusting to life in the USA and playing in MLB.
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I still think you underestimate Japanese baseball. With that said, I can see Dice-K settling down and getting back on track. He's got the stuff, it just seems that he has lost his control (can't find strike zone). But, if he turns out to be a bust that's going to be teh suck™. When I say bust see Heidki Irabu aka Fat Toad.
 
Roger Clemens just announced, in the middle of the Yanks game, from the owner's both, live, that he is now a Yankee again.

The crowd went nuts. I am loving this. :)
 
iKwick7 said:
Roger Clemens just announced, in the middle of the Yanks game, from the owner's both, live, that he is now a Yankee again.

The crowd went nuts. I am loving this. :)
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This is very unexpected, He was not going to make a decision until the end of May.
 
MacNut said:
This is very unexpected, He was not going to make a decision until the end of May.
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Exactly. Very cool way of coming out and saying it, too. A lot of people think this is a bad move, a lot of people think it's a good move. I think it's a great move, provided that the Yanks don't make special concessions and whatnot to Clemens (i.e. he has to come on road trips).

Think about it- there are now 4 SOLID starters on the Yanks- C.M.Wang, Moose, Pettite, and Clemens. Rasner has been doing good and Hughes is as great as they say he is, and he'll be back in a month or two. The Playoffs are starting to look very promising. :)
 
scum. well, not really, but this is very cheap and cheesy. i know about his family, but it's like he can pick and choose who he likes to play for halfway through the season like a hired gun and it just sounds very cheap.

i'm sure he's a nice guy, i met his son once, and my friend is in the astros system and knows him a bit. i have both roger's and koby's autographs. just in a digusted mood right now because of his cheesyness.

and the braves just tied up the game at 4-4.
 
furcalchick said:
scum. well, not really, but this is very cheap and cheesy. i know about his family, but it's like he can pick and choose who he likes to play for halfway through the season like a hired gun and it just sounds very cheap.

i'm sure he's a nice guy, i met his son once, and my friend is in the astros system and knows him a bit. i have both roger's and koby's autographs. just in a digusted mood right now because of his cheesyness.

and the braves just tied up the game at 4-4.
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Cheesey? Yeah. Hired gun? Absolutely.

The thing is, he is still one of, if not the best pitchers out there. I love the guy (he's been my favorite pitcher since I was a little kid and had a Roger Clemens glove- funny side note, I thought his name was Roper Clemens when I was really little, because that's what his autograph looked like :)) )
 
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