MacBook Pro 10,2 (Retina 13 inch?)

samac92 · Jun 13, 2012

Seeing as the new retina pro is "MacBookPro 10,1" I googled "MacBookPro 10,2" which I assume would be the model for the 13 inch and it comes up with this:

http://burgos.emeraldion.it/mbl/list/MacBookPro10,2

I have never heard of this minibatterylogger but it seems they log battery results from machines kind of like geekbench. You can look at older models, including the new "old style" MacBook Pros (9,1 for the 15", 9,2 for the 13")

I have no idea how easy this would be to fake, but the result was uploaded on the 25th April, which was before we knew that the new MacBook Pros would use the 10,x identifier (though that wouldn't be hard to guess.)

Also the battery capacity seems in line for what you'd expect from a retina 13 inch. It has a manufacturer date of 1st March.

What do people think?

beamer8912 · Jun 13, 2012

We can only hope. August can't come soon enough.

GGJstudios · Jun 13, 2012

samac92 said:
Also the battery capacity seems in line for what you'd expect from a retina 13 inch. It has a manufacturer date of 1st March.

What do people think?

There is no 13" MBP with a retina display. That's only available on the 15".

samac92 · Jun 13, 2012

GGJstudios said:
There is no 13" MBP with a retina display. That's only available on the 15".

That's the point, I'm talking about an unreleased model, similar to how the Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro showed up on geekbench a few weeks ago.

beamer8912 · Jun 13, 2012

GGJstudios said:
There is no 13" MBP with a retina display. That's only available on the 15".

Pretty sure the OP knows that. He was suggesting due to the existence of the reference to a Macbook Pro 10,2 that a 13" retina is coming soon. Not that one is currently for sale.

Stetrain · Jun 13, 2012

GGJstudios said:
There is no 13" MBP with a retina display. That's only available on the 15".

I think he's well aware that there has not yet been a 13" MBP Retina announced. This is speculation about a future release

GGJstudios · Jun 13, 2012

samac92 said:
That's the point, I'm talking about an unreleased model, similar to how the Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro showed up on geekbench a few weeks ago.

Ahh, got it. I misread your post.

samac92 · Jun 13, 2012

Does anyone know the manufacturer date of the new 15 inch Retina Pros? Then we can compare with what we have here. Not sure if that would tell us much.

samac92 · Jun 13, 2012

The 13 Retina Pro will be one of the following (these are mac models found in the 10.8 developer previews)

Mac-00BE6ED71E35EB86 GFX0 / IGPU / 8 p-states
Mac-FC02E91DDD3FA6A4 GFX0 / IGPU / 8 p-states - iMac 13,2 (unreleased)

Mac-0323AE75F6B9652B GFX0 / IGPU / 8 p-states
Mac-4BFBFE64B84461FE GFX0 / IGPU / 8 p-states

Mac-4B7AC7E43945597E GFX0 / IGPU / 8 p-states / Pstate_Map - MacBookPro 9,1 15 inch MBP mid 2012
Mac-F088A60696011ACB GFX0 / IGPU / 8 p-states / Pstate_Map
Mac-C3EC7CD22292981F GFX0 / IGPU / 8 p-states / Pstate_Map - MacBookPro 10,1 15 inch Retina MBP

Mac-66F35F19FE2A0D05 IGPU / 12 p-states / DeepSleep - MacBookAir 5,1 11 inch MacBook Air mid 2012
Mac-2E6FAB96566FE58C IGPU / 11 p-states / DeepSleep - MacBookAir 5,2 13 inch MacBook Air mid 2012

Mac-6F01561E16C75D06 IGPU / 7 p-states - MacBookPro 9,2 13 inch MacBook Pro mid 2012
Mac-7DF2A3B5E5D671ED IGPU / 8 p-states
Mac-96A57760DDAC8482 IGPU / 8 p-states
Mac-AFD8A9D944EA4843 IGPU / 7 p-states

As you can see between the 9,1 and 10,1 MBPs there is a model that has both an IGP and a dedicated card. Would this be the 13 inch? or would it be one nearer the bottom of the list that's IGP only?

ASKendrew · Jun 13, 2012

It'd be nice if it was the one in between...

Astroboy907 · Jun 13, 2012

ASKendrew said:
It'd be nice if it was the one in between...

or better yet if it was a mid 2012 with a retina!

macintoshi · Jun 13, 2012

beamer8912 said:
Pretty sure the OP knows that. He was suggesting due to the existence of the reference to a Macbook Pro 10,2 that a 13" retina is coming soon. Not that one is currently for sale.

Your wishdream, i do rather go for a 17 inch rather than 13 inch, since 13 inches have been updated, but not 17 inches!

beamer8912 · Jun 14, 2012

macintoshi said:
Your wishdream, i do rather go for a 17 inch rather than 13 inch, since 13 inches have been updated, but not 17 inches!

17" retina or just 17"? I can't imagine what the price tag on a 17" retina would be

Dangerous Theory · Jun 14, 2012

samac92 said:
The 13 Retina Pro will be one of the following (these are mac models found in the 10.8 developer previews)

As you can see between the 9,1 and 10,1 MBPs there is a model that has both an IGP and a dedicated card. Would this be the 13 inch? or would it be one nearer the bottom of the list that's IGP only?

Surely the HD4000 can easily output retina

beamer8912 · Jun 14, 2012

Dangerous Theory said:
Surely the HD4000 can easily output retina

I don't know about easily, but it does power a retina screen. It currently powers the 15" retina under low loads. It'd do even better on a 13" with a slightly lower overall resolution.

Dangerous Theory · Jun 14, 2012

beamer8912 said:
I don't know about easily, but it does power a retina screen. It currently powers the 15" retina under low loads. It'd do even better on a 13" with a slightly lower overall resolution.

Can't you link 2 thunderbolt displays to the 2011 13"? If the HD3k can do that...

samac92 · Jun 14, 2012

Dangerous Theory said:
Can't you link 2 thunderbolt displays to the 2011 13"? If the HD3k can do that...

Only one as far as I know. But a MBA powering its own display and a thunderbolt display is a total of 5M pixels, and that works with a HD3000.

A 13" retina display would be about 4M pixels, which would be fine for the HD4000. But how would it cope when you connect a second display?

edit: turns out you can use two thunderbolt displays with the 13". A total of 7.3M pixels running from the HD300.

beamer8912 · Jun 14, 2012

samac92 said:
Only one as far as I know. But a MBA powering its own display and a thunderbolt display is a total of 5M pixels, and that works with a HD3000.

A 13" retina display would be about 4M pixels, which would be fine for the HD4000. But how would it cope when you connect a second display?

edit: turns out you can use two thunderbolt displays with the 13". A total of 7.3M pixels running from the HD300.

And the HD4000 is quite a solid advancement on the H3000. I still have not seen a reason against a 13" retina.

samac92 · Jun 14, 2012

beamer8912 said:
And the HD4000 is quite a solid advancement on the H3000. I still have not seen a reason against a 13" retina.

Neither have I. I think it's very likely one is coming in the next few months

kaitlynami · Jun 14, 2012

I would love a 13" retina. I need to purchase a new computer soon, and the 15" retina is out of my budget, and just too big for my tastes. 13" is the size I'd like to have, and the price would be a bit lower which would hopefully help fit it into my price range.

samac92 · Jun 14, 2012

Won't come till October according to Appleinsider

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...aunch_13_retina_macbook_pro_by_early_oct.html

Will G. · Jun 14, 2012

It looks like that's the same analyst who originally said August.

Good to have an update, I suppose... now I just have to decide which computer I'm going to buy.

beamer8912 · Jun 14, 2012

samac92 said:
Won't come till October according to Appleinsider

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...aunch_13_retina_macbook_pro_by_early_oct.html

Bummer, the analyst is altering his prediction. Let's hope its just this one time.

Dangerous Theory · Jun 14, 2012

Would be a perfect time to release it for me. Will have started Uni by then to get the discount and probably have the money too. What sort of price point do we figure? If the 15" is £1800, I'd imagine £1400?

samac92 · Jun 14, 2012

Dangerous Theory said:
Would be a perfect time to release it for me. Will have started Uni by then to get the discount and probably have the money too. What sort of price point do we figure? If the 15" is £1800, I'd imagine £1400?

Well the 15 Retina is the same price as the high end non retina, so by that logic the 13 retina would be the same as the high end 13 non retina - £1249. But I think that sounds too low, it would be better value than the air. Around £1400 sounds like a good bet.

I really really hope they don't stick in only 128GB and expect you to buy the high end for 256GB though.

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