DL'd installed 10.4.11 thru Software Updates... first thing i tried was to Open Safari and i got a box saying: The application Safari quit unexpectedly. Actually you can see NO evidence that it was ever even opened. I then DL'd the 10.4.11 combo from the Apple site and Installed that and the exact very same thing happened: Safari quit unexpectedly. is there a fix for this? any suggestions? i just cant make myself luv Firefox. not to beg sympathy but i am now in a hospital bed in Orlando trying to recuperate get stronger after a 'massive' heart attack... anyway thanks for any help advice that you can give me.