Do you guys think PowerPC will be supported in 10.6? I really hope so...! I even have some small hopes for 10.7 but perhaps that's a little too much. Still I don't think it's unreasonable to think that 10.6 will be supported considering they'll be selling PowerMac G5's up until the end of the year and 10.6 will be out something like 2.5 years after that.
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10.6 for PowerPC?
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OS X 10.4 still runs on G3s. G5 to Intel is a somewhat bigger step. My guess is that 10.6 will be the last version for the PPC.
all depends on the intel thing ! but i doubt there will be support for PPC in 10.6 Puss in Boots edition
your talking 3-5 years down the road for 10.6
your talking 3-5 years down the road for 10.6
10.6 will almost DEFINITELY be supported. Apple will not leave its customers in the cold. They want you to upgrade but WILL NOT force you to. 10.7 is questionable, but 10.6 WILL be supported for both PPC and intel.
EDIT: MY BAD. I thought we were already on 10.5
your question took me by surprise. 10.6 is questionable but will still probably be supported. 10.7 (if there is one) is 50-50. All this talk about what people think leopard will be like and if it will be supported (back a while ago) and then you ask about 10.6. Took me off guard.
sorry all.
EDIT: MY BAD. I thought we were already on 10.5
your question took me by surprise. 10.6 is questionable but will still probably be supported. 10.7 (if there is one) is 50-50. All this talk about what people think leopard will be like and if it will be supported (back a while ago) and then you ask about 10.6. Took me off guard.sorry all.
Tilmitt said:
apple will be supporting the PPC chip for 3-4 years after the entire line of Macs gone to intel .. and the average build time for each 10.6 etc is between a year and 18 months ..
apple aint stupid to drop all the millions of PPC owners from support soo soon..
i can see what your saying but what do we all think the sys req will be for 10.6 ?iphil said:apple will be supporting the PPC chip for 3-4 years after the entire line of Macs gone to intel .. and the average build time for each 10.6 etc is between a year and 18 months ..
apple aint stupid to drop all the millions of PPC owners from support soo soon..
1.5Gh+ 1gb ram and 20GB + hdd for general install excluding iLife Apps
the min. spec for x.6 could be 600Mhz G3 etc but apple might drop support for G3 on X.6.. i don't know if what apple has planned for X.6 so on, so apple only knows the future min. spec for the future OS versions ...
liketom said:
Why would they arbitrarily upgrade the system requirements? The OS isn't going to change so drastically that we need a minimum of 768 more megs of RAM and more than 1ghz more proc speed.
liketom said:
AFAIK supporting the G3 requires no extra code or software changes as long as the OS is compiled for PPC, so as long as they support G4s they'll technically support G3s, and I don't think they'd intentionally disable support for the G3 processor for no real reason.
OutThere said:
You better believe Apple will drop support for the G3 sooner or later. It costs money to support these machines; the more machines Apple must support, the higher the cost (and we're approaching a point in time in which AppleCare extended warranties on the last G3 iBooks will expire). This also provides an incentive for users of older machines to purchase a new computer.
We've already begun to see Apple drop support for the G3s: the latest versions of iWork and iLife require a G4 processor. And these are consumer applications no less.
My guess would be: 10.5 will require a G4 processor, and/or perhaps a machine that supports Quartz Extreme.
They will stop making ( and officially selling ) PPC computers in shorter than than 3 - 5 years and the OS will be supported for probably 2 more revisions, as has been said. I just bought a PPC about 4 months ago, and I'm not worried about it. I'll be replacing it with a new computer way before that 5 years is up, most likely before 3 is up - probably when I graduate college. I'll probably then get a MBP that there are 15 year-old's with now.
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I also think that a large portion of this depends on what the user base is.
I'm sure they would have liked a very quick transition out of OS9 but they continued classic support for a longggg time, and booting into OS9 on new macs up until just a couple of years ago!
If the uptake on intel macs is phenominal, they won't want to spend the extra time (and it will be lots) perfecting the same OS for two systems...if on the other hand they HAVE to support millions of slow upgraders, their approach may be different...
I'm sure they would have liked a very quick transition out of OS9 but they continued classic support for a longggg time, and booting into OS9 on new macs up until just a couple of years ago!
If the uptake on intel macs is phenominal, they won't want to spend the extra time (and it will be lots) perfecting the same OS for two systems...if on the other hand they HAVE to support millions of slow upgraders, their approach may be different...
Yes, I think so. I don't see Apple suddenly shutting out all PowerPC users for 10.6. I don't see this happening for a long time...
I think a lot of people are going to stay with their trust PPC machine until Apple officially announces that they are completely switched to Intel, computers and software, and any other applicable hardware. Once they do that, Intel purchases will probably skyrocket.
Psssssh... at this rate, it'll better. It'll probably beat Vista to market!
I dunno about 10.6. Apple had said they would slow down releases after Tiger. And then they got a fire under them and decided to make Leopard follow relatively soon. But I think a lot depends on how Leopard is perceived vis-à-vis Vista... I'd rather see them take time and really improve OS X than just keep releasing new versions with half-baked features.
I dunno about 10.6. Apple had said they would slow down releases after Tiger. And then they got a fire under them and decided to make Leopard follow relatively soon. But I think a lot depends on how Leopard is perceived vis-à-vis Vista... I'd rather see them take time and really improve OS X than just keep releasing new versions with half-baked features.
Yeah, the only issue with the G3 is the lack of Quartz Extreme support on most machines. 10.4.4 and later breaks PCI Extreme so I'm doubtful 10.5 or later will be supported so easily. Core Image was a big hurdle to cross in 10.4.AppleMatt said:
Once I enabled Quartz Extreme I got a lot better experience. Just opening Finder windows now doesn't cause a beachball and the drive to go berserk.
mkrishnan said:It'll probably beat Vista to market!
Vista consumer is coming out Jan 07 now!!
crazy!
Why do people keep asking this? Apple is still selling PPCs right now. I don't know when Apple will discontinue support, but it would be stupid of them to do it too soon since 90+% of their user base is PPC. Even after they fully make the Intel transition, they will still have a lot of PPC users. 10.5 definitely will be. 10.6 probably will be, even if it's 2 years later. 10.7 may even, as it could come out about 4-5 years from now. By then, people would be wanting a new computer anyway, but considering you can still run Tiger on G3 iMacs with enough RAM, I'm not worried.
iLife and other apps are the ones that may lose support in the next couple of years.
iLife and other apps are the ones that may lose support in the next couple of years.
Who cares whether or not 10.6 will support PPC? I think the real question, on everyone's mind, is...will it support donkey porn????
I do have a Dual G5 2.0 and I don't believe I will ever need an Intel system. It is quite easy for Apple to keep supporting G5/Intel, so I will enjoy my system as long as it does not break down.
Heh, I have the same system and it's jacked up pretty good now with 4GB of SDRAM and a 256MB ATI Radeon X800 XT. I shouldn't even be thinking about a new system - but the longer it takes my primary applications to go universal I wonder if a Quad 2.5 might be the best new box for me. Crazy to even think about itmatthew24 said:
I totally agree. Apple stated explicitly that it would support its PPC-based Macs for five years after the Intel transition was complete. That takes us out to something like 2011 or 2012. The only thing that has changed since Apple announced its Intel transition is that it is ahead of schedule.solvs said:
I wouldnt put it past apple to drop support for PPC by 10.6. I dont see them supporting 10.7.
Reason for this is based on how apple does software for OSX. it seems as soon as apple moves on to a new verson of OSX (10.2 to 10.3 and so on) they seem to drop all major support for the other 10.2. No more real bug fixes. no new apple software will work on it. It would seem very appleish to do it.
3 years after the switch I dont see them supporting it.
Pretty good after 4 years and when it hit 5 I dont see any support left for PPC. but then again in 5 years I dont expect to see x86 around any more. I expect the x64 design to take over and the new CPU in 5 years will have no support for x86 design and no 32 bit ablitity to run.
Reason for this is based on how apple does software for OSX. it seems as soon as apple moves on to a new verson of OSX (10.2 to 10.3 and so on) they seem to drop all major support for the other 10.2. No more real bug fixes. no new apple software will work on it. It would seem very appleish to do it.
3 years after the switch I dont see them supporting it.
Pretty good after 4 years and when it hit 5 I dont see any support left for PPC. but then again in 5 years I dont expect to see x86 around any more. I expect the x64 design to take over and the new CPU in 5 years will have no support for x86 design and no 32 bit ablitity to run.