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11th Gen Tiger Lake I’m in. As soon as a 13” MacBook Pro releases I’m buying it.

What do you need PCIxe 4.0 in a laptop for?

Tiger Lake is going to be a big jump for Intel, especially in regards to graphics performance. I’d expect Apple Silicon to be around 20% or so faster, while running much cooler on average though.
 
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Alex you seem to be perpetually obsessed with future standards. They're not that relevant to getting interesting things done with computers as individuals
 
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TheRealAlex said:
Well I can hope, also will the ARM version have LPDDR5 and PCI Express 4.0 support ?
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Why would it matter when the ARM MacBook will probably destroy a Tiger Lake CPU in both benchmarks, thermals, battery life and real-world usability tests.

Apple is about to turn the specs-lovers world on its head. You can have a flagship Android with the greatest specs on the planet, yet still an iPhone 11 Pro will beat it. Same thing gonna happen with Apple Silicon vs. Intel platforms.
 
A new Intel chips would be a waste to many in the MBP crowd. They already complain about fan noise when you use chips to their full capabilities.
 
I'd love to see it in the 16" mbp sooner than later. I don't expect the 16" ARM to be available until a full year from now. And then I'd have to wait for my various softwares to catch up. I'm 100% in on an Intel 16" 64gb 5600m mbp in the next few months and would love to see this chip in it.
 
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dinobear said:
I'd love to see it in the 16" mbp sooner than later. I don't expect the 16" ARM to be available until a full year from now. And then I'd have to wait for my various softwares to catch up. I'm 100% in on an Intel 16" 64gb 5600m mbp in the next few months and would love to see this chip in it.
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I agree! I too hope we see Tiger Lake in the 16" Pro before the switch to A-series processing. And we just might given I don't think the higher-end products will make the switch for at least another year. 🤞
 
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I would be shocked if Apple released another Intel MacBook Pro. That ship has sailed. Now that Apple is straddling two architectures, whichever one is better will get released. I'm guessing it's going to be ARM.
 
leman said:
What do you need PCIxe 4.0 in a laptop for?

Tiger Lake is going to be a big jump for Intel, especially in regards to graphics performance. I’d expect Apple Silicon to be around 20% or so faster, while running much cooler on average though.
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The reports that Tiger Lake is such a big improvement over Ice Lake are exciting because they presage a truly massive performance leap coming from the architecture transition to Apple Silicon. Apple knew how good Tiger Lake — and, therefore, its successors — would be and still they found it lacking for their plans.
 
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BeatCrazy said:
Why would it matter when the ARM MacBook will probably destroy a Tiger Lake CPU in both benchmarks, thermals, battery life and real-world usability tests.

Apple is about to turn the specs-lovers world on its head. You can have a flagship Android with the greatest specs on the planet, yet still an iPhone 11 Pro will beat it. Same thing gonna happen with Apple Silicon vs. Intel platforms.
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You’re hallucinating my friend.
Tiger Lake will destroy any A14X SoC.
look at the benchmarks... Apple has got a long way trying to catch up with Tiger Lake.
 
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jerryk said:
A new Intel chips would be a waste to many in the MBP crowd. They already complain about fan noise when you use chips to their full capabilities.
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WTF are you talking about?
There are no Tiger Lake Chips in the market at the moment.
 
Patcell said:
I agree! I too hope we see Tiger Lake in the 16" Pro before the switch to A-series processing. And we just might given I don't think the higher-end products will make the switch for at least another year. 🤞
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There won’t be Tiger Lake CPU suitable for the 16 Inch MBP.
Tiger Lake is only for quad core Ultrabook designs [‘u’ series], not for mobile workstation CPUs [‘h’ series] which will be stuck on Skylake refresh for the foreseeable future.
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dinobear said:
I'd love to see it in the 16" mbp sooner than later. I don't expect the 16" ARM to be available until a full year from now. And then I'd have to wait for my various softwares to catch up. I'm 100% in on an Intel 16" 64gb 5600m mbp in the next few months and would love to see this chip in it.
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There won’t be Tiger Lake CPU suitable for the 16 Inch MBP.
Tiger Lake is only for quad core Ultrabook designs [‘u’ series], not for mobile workstation CPUs [‘h’ series] which will be stuck on Skylake refresh for the foreseeable future.
 
aberamati said:
You’re hallucinating my friend.
Tiger Lake will destroy any A14X SoC.
look at the benchmarks... Apple has got a long way trying to catch up with Tiger Lake.
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A12Z already beats current-gen U-series Intel chips, so maybe you should think again.
 
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A12Z already beats current-gen U-series Intel chips, so maybe you should think again.
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Yet Tiger Lake is 50% faster than A12Z.
There’s no way Apple can surpass Tiger Lake’s single core performance.
And that without taking into account performance hits caused by Rosetta emulation, which reduces performance by 30%-50%. During the first 2 years, most apps will still be running on Rosetta, so that’s the real performance you’re going to get out of “Apple Silicon”
 
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aberamati said:
Yet Tiger Lake is 50% faster than A12Z.
There’s no way Apple can surpass Tiger Lake’s single core performance.
And that without taking into account performance hits caused by Rosetta emulation, which reduces performance by 30%-50%. During the first 2 years, most apps will still be running on Rosetta, so that’s the real performance you’re going to get out of “Apple Silicon”
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You just told us in this thread that Tiger Lake chips aren’t in the market, so how can they be faster than a chip I can buy today? “Leaked benchmarks” don’t count :rolleyes:

The writing is on the wall for near-term Intel performance. You can bookmark this thread and come back in 6 months to show me how wrong I am.
 
aberamati said:
WTF are you talking about?
There are no Tiger Lake Chips in the market at the moment.
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Read what I wrote. The forums are full of complaints from people about their MacBook Pros making too much fan noise when they push their systems. The only way to get these systems quite enough to satisfy these people is to make the MacBook Pro as noisy as an iPad.
 
aberamati said:
Yet Tiger Lake is 50% faster than A12Z.
There’s no way Apple can surpass Tiger Lake’s single core performance.
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You're comparing an unreleased Intel laptop processor with a 2 year old tablet processor. I have no doubt that Tiger Lake will offer performance gains over earlier Intel CPUs, but we have no indications of what to expect from Apple when the power and heat limitations are less restrictive.
 
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Apple will probably not ship Tiger Lake processors in the MacBook Pro 13".

And that is good news, because the Apple Silicon based MacBooks will "obliterate" any Tiger Lake based laptops.

Tiger Lake leaked benchmarks:
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iPhone 12 (A14) leaked benchmarks:
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The A14 SOC that will power the iPhone 12 is going to be 18% faster in single core workloads and just 6% slower in multicore workloads.

That means the iPhone in your pocket will be about as fast as Tiger Lake PC laptops.

The A14 in the iPhone 12 is going to be a 6-core processor (2 high speed + 4 high efficiency). The top of the line MacBook Pro 13" is probably going to ship with a 12-core processor (8 high speed + 4 high efficiency) based on the same architecture, but with none of thermal constraints.

Now, can you imagine just how fast the Apple Silicon processor in the next MacBook Pro 13" will be?
 
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CheesePuff said:
and this comment is how I know you have no idea what you're talking about..
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@CheesePuff A bit harsh as from his posting style he is a power user that needs to get a lot of computing done in a limited amount of time. It takes cutting edge performance to get everything done between school home time and Mom putting everything away in the toy cupboard at lights-out.
 
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