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iPod touch 128GB iPod Touch?
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With the decrease in price of solid state storage this year and as much as i would like to say yes... i doubt it. Apple wants everyone to go towards icloud and carrying their media on there, rather than on their own personal storage inside devices.
Sadly, no I don't there will be a 128GB touch this year. I think instead Apple will drop the prices a little in order to stay competitive against android devices during the christmas season. There's stronger competition this year than in previous years.
1x64 GB is already super expensive, why would Apple but 2 64 GB chips and make the device cost 500$ or more when the 8GB model will presumably start at 199$.
95% of consumers don't need all of this space, Apple has no incentive to make a 128 GB ipod touch due to lack of demand partly because classic is still here and the high pricepoint.
I know this point is banal but why would anyone carry more than 10 GB of music. 10 GB is already 10 hours of music at 328kbps. It is already unlikely one would listen to music for 10 hour straight and people would bound rewind the music that sounds good.
With the elimination of iPod Classic games on iTunes, it's pretty clear that the Classic is going away. It would make sense if they introduced a higher capacity touch to fill that space. But as has been previously mentioned, flash is expensive...
Its about having options.. if a song I want to listen to pops in my mind I want to be able to listen to it instead of having to hope it got synced today through a limited 8GB playlist and what not.
Its been two years since Apple has put 64GB at the $400 price point, I'm pretty sure the 128GB could be put in at that price point by now.
What they need to do is get rid of that lousy 8GB model.
Why would anyone want to carry 100GB of music - answer
The simple answer is to have choice. I have approximately 90GB of music on my 2 iPod Classics. One in my car and one on a Pure i20 digital output dock on my hifi system. I almost certainly want to listen to a different album every day and I don't want to have to remove the iPod from the car to reload it. I now have a choice of about 250 albums and on that basis never really need to change the iPod, except to upload new purchases.
This iCloud really irks me. Like much of the world, I have a relatively slow internet connection availability both in the UK and France and in the car, I have none at all. I have no 3G at all in either country at my houses. Having all my media in the cloud is useless to me and many others. We need to store locally and will for at least the next 5+ years or given British Telecom's speed of doing upgrades maybe twice this period. France is better and I hope to have fibre to the house within 3 or 4 years.
The simple answer is to have choice. I have approximately 90GB of music on my 2 iPod Classics. One in my car and one on a Pure i20 digital output dock on my hifi system. I almost certainly want to listen to a different album every day and I don't want to have to remove the iPod from the car to reload it. I now have a choice of about 250 albums and on that basis never really need to change the iPod, except to upload new purchases.
This iCloud really irks me. Like much of the world, I have a relatively slow internet connection availability both in the UK and France and in the car, I have none at all. I have no 3G at all in either country at my houses. Having all my media in the cloud is useless to me and many others. We need to store locally and will for at least the next 5+ years or given British Telecom's speed of doing upgrades maybe twice this period. France is better and I hope to have fibre to the house within 3 or 4 years.
This is exactly why I gave my 8gb Nano away and started taking my 64gb Touch everywhere. I got tired of picking 15-20 playlists and having to synch every other day to have some variety. I did have to cut my libarary to fit onto the Touch and it's working great for me. Admittedly, I still have 10% of my library that is in my unplayed playlist.
128gb would allow me to get more apps.
Bingo. Just because a bunch of you have good reason to use a 128GB iPod doesn't mean Apple has a good reason to make one. They might, but I doubt it.
Despite what any individual thinks, there is obviously still a sizable number of people who want a high capacity media device, and are willing to pay a premium price for it. The iPod Classic existed at 120+ GB for more than 5 years for a reason - because there were people who wanted that capacity.
That said, it appears reasonable that Apple would not discontinue making the iPod Classic unless they had another high capacity device to offer. So I think there is hope for an 128 GB Touch (and a corresponding 64 GB iPhone). But at the current high 64 GB chip flash prices, certainly that would be a deterrant to Apple, since that would imply a $500+ Touch price point, and I'm not sure Apple wants to go there.
So in other words, it could go either way. Luckily, we only have one more day to find out.
And don't get me started with that ridiculous iCloud argument - besides all the data cap and poor signal issues, YOU CAN'T STREAM THE ICLOUD!! It's download only, so you still need the local storage. I'm continually amazed by how many people miss that simple point.
Tony
That said, it appears reasonable that Apple would not discontinue making the iPod Classic unless they had another high capacity device to offer. So I think there is hope for an 128 GB Touch (and a corresponding 64 GB iPhone). But at the current high 64 GB chip flash prices, certainly that would be a deterrant to Apple, since that would imply a $500+ Touch price point, and I'm not sure Apple wants to go there.
So in other words, it could go either way.
Luckily, we only have one more day to find out.And don't get me started with that ridiculous iCloud argument - besides all the data cap and poor signal issues, YOU CAN'T STREAM THE ICLOUD!! It's download only, so you still need the local storage. I'm continually amazed by how many people miss that simple point.
Tony
Doubtful. Yes, some people would like it, but the market is small, and they make plenty of money off the smaller capacities. They really do need to ditch the 8 and start with 16GB. iOS 4 takes up way too much space on the 8GB models, and I doubt 5 will be any smaller. Personally, the 32GB is the perfect size for me, holds my whole library (videos included, although I don't really watch them a whole lot) and all my apps. I'd say I have a pretty average music collection as well.
Also, I agree with previous posts, iCloud is weak sauce.
Also, I agree with previous posts, iCloud is weak sauce.
And don't get me started with that ridiculous iCloud argument - besides all the data cap and poor signal issues, YOU CAN'T STREAM THE ICLOUD!! It's download only, so you still need the local storage. I'm continually amazed by how many people miss that simple point.
With iCloud you can't stream it, you can only download up to 64GB of music and then you have to delete it and download up to 64GB of music again when the first 64GB is no good, and do this before you're at your computer again. The demand to accommodate such a situation is so rare that it would probably be a low priority for Apple. It's not like they're going to lose those customers who absolutely need 65GB+ at all times, for extended periods, to competitors. I'm repeatedly bored by how often one poster manages to ignore that simple point.
So there was never any need for over 64 GB then, which has existed in iPods since 2005, over 6 YEARS ago. All those millions of people who bought all those millions of 60+ GB iPods simply for capacity reasons were ignorant jerks who just wanted to spend more money but had no real need for any capacity over 60 GB. I so glad you brought that to light.
You don't need it so no one does. I'm continually amazed how one person can use that logic over and over again.
Tony
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People can thumbs down me all they want but I am just speaking from a logical standpoint.
Agreed.
There simply isn't the market for a 128GB ipod touch. Most people who have huge libraries already have the classic if a 128GB model were to come out, its high price point would be unattractive, costing the amount of an iPad2 or more.
However base storage has to be increased, iOS4 already takes over 1GB and with FIFA12 being one app that is 1GB, a 16GB model would be welcomed.
There should be 16,32,64 GB models coming tommorow but knowing Apple the 5G touch will come out in 8,32,64 models.
It would make a decent amount of consumers happy.
While it is understandable that people want more than 64GB of music, I don't think there's enough people who want this.
Granted that if the Classic is going to be discontinued, they'll need something to replace it, which could very possibly be the Touch.
We shall see.
My gosh, I can run thru 8 hours of my music during my 8 hour work day. So, I guess that means I have to play the same 8 hours of music every day. 10GB is nothing these days.
And if the classic is an obstacle to getting an upgraded iPod Touch, then maybe it's time to ditch the classic. ? People want to do more than one thing on their device. I have a pay-as-you go phone that I won't get rid of. I don't want a contract phone. I want a device that I can listen to music on, and listen to Pandora when I have a free internet connection. I can't do that on a classic iPod. I also want to be able to download from the app store and do light surfing without having to drag my iPad around with me in public.
So, a high storage iPodTouch is JUST MY SIZE.
I cannot be the only one out there that has these same type tech needs.
I hope so.
But, if not, I will still buy the largest capacity one they offer. Since I don't already have an iPod Touch, I am not as disappointed at the 'minimal improvements' that have been rumored. To me, no matter what, it's an upgrade from 'nothing'!!
So you don't rewind music that sounds good?
10GB of music and you go through it in one day like its nothing?
Personally If I hear good music, I replay it dozens of times before it turns normal and then move on to another song. I can go through a week without getting through 5GB of music...
This is only from my life but I am representative of the average consumer who does not have a lot of music and a 128GB touch is outlandishly large.
I listen to classical, jazz and new age. I don't keep rewinding Beethoven's 7th over and over.
I like variety, and I am sure I am not alone in my music taste or my listening behavior. Making a broad statement regarding you being an average consumer is very presumptuous.
Further, saying a 128 GB touch is outlandishly large is your opinion. There have been others, on this forum alone, who disagree with your opinion.
I agree with this man. 128GB is complete overkill. I keep 1GB of music on my iPod touch and i switch it around for other albums when i get tired of it. I've never felt the need to add more music.