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iPads generally have better supply than iPhones.

Two seperate supplies that are probably around 70% the size of the iPhone stockpiles, so 40% larger than the iPhone stockpile when you combine LTE and Wifi together. There are also less people willing to buy an iPad than an iPhone on the release.

Also, let's say they have 20,000,000 orders in the first day. Here is how it will be divided.

Wifi - 12,000,000
LTE - 8,000,000

16GB W - 4,000,000 (1,500,000B/2,500,000W)
32GB W - 6,000,000 (2,500,000B/3,500,000W)
64GB W - 2,000,000 (750,000B/1,250,000W)
16GB LTE - 3,000,000 (1,250,000B/1,750,000W)
32GB LTE - 4,000,000 (1,750,000B/2,250,000W)
64GB LTE - 1,000,000 (400,000B/600,000W)

Of course, all the numbers after the percentages are imaginary but they're showing you how the stockpile gradually depletes.
 
iPads generally have better supply than iPhones.

The fact it appears the Mini is coming from a new factory in Brasil probably means they should be able to maintain production better than normal. Every new factory equals additional capacity (which is stating the obvious, I suppose).
 
Ever since Tim has become CEO, they have been handling supply A LOT better.
 
Ever since Tim has become CEO, they have been handling supply A LOT better.

Is that serious? I think this is the least amount of supply of iPhones I have ever seen. I can't remember people not being able to walk into store and get one a full month later.
 
Is that serious? I think this is the least amount of supply of iPhones I have ever seen. I can't remember people not being able to walk into store and get one a full month later.

Yeah, the iPhone 5 supply right now is terrible. Atrocious even.
 
Ever since Tim has become CEO, they have been handling supply A LOT better.

He's been handling supply for years, nothing has changed. The factories are just pumping them out faster and Apple has better learned the demand for each product. Nothing magical here.
 
Is that serious? I think this is the least amount of supply of iPhones I have ever seen. I can't remember people not being able to walk into store and get one a full month later.

Has any iPhone (or any tech gadget from any company) before the 5 been released to virtually the whole world in the first 3 months?

100 countries in the first 3 months was always going to stretch production and supply chain, even without the unforeseen QC problems.
 
Has any iPhone (or any tech gadget from any company) before the 5 been released to virtually the whole world in the first 3 months?

100 countries in the first 3 months was always going to stretch production and supply chain, even without the unforeseen QC problems.

I'm glad the whole world is getting iPhone 5. Just wish mine (delivers in 2 days) would have not been on back order almost four weeks tho. Amazing how they find enough to open new countries but could not fill my back order for weeks.
 
I'm glad the whole world is getting iPhone 5. Just wish mine (delivers in 2 days) would have not been on back order almost four weeks tho. Amazing how they find enough to open new countries but could not fill my back order for weeks.

As I see it, you have reason to be annoyed, Apple should really have pushed stage 2 and 3 back a bit until demand stabilised for the original launch countries.

I suppose their timetable and agreements with partner retailers/networks limited their ability to do so.
 
As I see it, you have reason to be annoyed, Apple should really have pushed stage 2 and 3 back a bit until demand stabilised for the original launch countries.

I suppose their timetable and agreements with partner retailers/networks limited their ability to do so.

exactly...why expand into other countries when you cannot fulfill the current orders. Obviously from a business stand point it makes sense b.c they are selling an insane amount, but if I was one of the people waiting over a month for a phone....I would be pretty annoyed.
 
exactly...why expand into other countries when you cannot fulfill the current orders. Obviously from a business stand point it makes sense b.c they are selling an insane amount, but if I was one of the people waiting over a month for a phone....I would be pretty annoyed.

You could have either pre-ordered when that option was available or use the pre-order for local store for next day pickup now. Apple shouldn't have to cater to the US because we are greedy. lol
 
You could have either pre-ordered when that option was available or use the pre-order for local store for next day pickup now. Apple shouldn't have to cater to the US because we are greedy. lol

I got mine on launch day via pre-order :), but the US is their money maker....they should cater to us!
 
That took longer than expected...

It is no secret that many will not upgrade and keep their iPad 3 but Apple is thinking past that and looking a Christmas and the holiday season.

I think Apple is changing it's strategy on product updates and we are going to see incremental updates MUCH more often.

Apple fans will either need to spend more money or lose the mentality that they always have to have the latests and greatest products!:apple:
 
You could have either pre-ordered when that option was available or use the pre-order for local store for next day pickup now. Apple shouldn't have to cater to the US because we are greedy. lol

I was doing mission work in the Philippines and couldn't preorder on launch day. That's not Apples fault at all. But having to wait 4 weeks for 2 phones while millions are shipped to new countries is a problem.

As far as the next day pick up.. Well that was a joke in San Jose Ca. Demand is still high. There are still lines in the mornings at Valley Fair mall.. Limited phones and backorders yet plenty to open new countries? I guess. No worries my 2 phones arrive later today.
 
It is no secret that many will not upgrade and keep their iPad 3 but Apple is thinking past that and looking a Christmas and the holiday season.

I think Apple is changing it's strategy on product updates and we are going to see incremental updates MUCH more often.

Apple fans will either need to spend more money or lose the mentality that they always have to have the latests and greatest products!:apple:

No, I don't believe for a moment they are changing their strategy on product updates - they simply moved the refresh cycle for the iPad to coincide with the iPhone's update and the holiday season, so iPad Christmas presents aren't "old tech" 3 months later. They may do "silent" tech updates (which this one was not) mid-cycle, but there would be a very good reason to do so, and I would expect it to happen rarely (at most). It costs too much for them to launch new versions, no matter how minor. They aren't changing their product strategy (related to new releases), this was a one-off.
 
No, I don't believe for a moment they are changing their strategy on product updates - they simply moved the refresh cycle for the iPad to coincide with the iPhone's update and the holiday season, so iPad Christmas presents aren't "old tech" 3 months later. They may do "silent" tech updates (which this one was not) mid-cycle, but there would be a very good reason to do so, and I would expect it to happen rarely (at most). It costs too much for them to launch new versions, no matter how minor. They aren't changing their product strategy (related to new releases), this was a one-off.

i DO NOT AGREE. tIME WILL TELL
 
No, I don't believe for a moment they are changing their strategy on product updates - they simply moved the refresh cycle for the iPad to coincide with the iPhone's update and the holiday season, so iPad Christmas presents aren't "old tech" 3 months later. They may do "silent" tech updates (which this one was not) mid-cycle, but there would be a very good reason to do so, and I would expect it to happen rarely (at most). It costs too much for them to launch new versions, no matter how minor. They aren't changing their product strategy (related to new releases), this was a one-off.

I totally agree with you. Doesn't make sense to essentially have 2 iPad events a year. 2012 is an anomaly and we'll see both Mini and regular iPad refreshes happen in the Fall from now on.
 
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