thanks
the MBP was on, shut and upside down, fans started up and this thing got hot just sitting there. turned it off and restarted, now its working.
this is my 2nd logic board, I used to cook the old one to get machine to work, and it worked about 10 times.
pulling all files now, dont expect this to run too much longer.
[doublepost=1562531431][/doublepost]is there an easy way to turn off the bad video card and use a lower performance one? (thought i read the Radeon was the issue and it could be bypassed).