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Rhinoevans

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Brand new inbox 2011 MBP for $1589 and no tax

or New cMBP for $1789 and no tax


I think that is not enough off???

Is the only diff Ivy and USB 3.0



Thanks

Not interested in rMBP
 
Brand new inbox 2011 MBP for $1589 and no tax

or New cMBP for $1789 and no tax


I think that is not enough off???

Is the only diff Ivy and USB 3.0



Thanks

Not interested in rMBP

Seems like you know what you're getting.
I think it's up to you to decide.
Do you think you're going to need the faster USB ports?
How long do you plan to keep this computer?
 
Get the 2011 and spend $169 on newegg for the Samsung 830 256gb SSD and $85 for 16gb of ram and you will have an incredibly fast machine.
 
If you got a 2012 15" base refurb it would be $1529. This is the same thing that I got and am completely satisfied. You can't tell the difference between this one and a new machine, it's definitely a good deal. Oh and as far as 2011 vs 2012 go with the 2012 so you have USB 3 that will make the resale value higher in the future.
 
To me, the HD 4000 iGPU, USB 3, NVIDIA GT650 dGPU, 1600 MHz RAM, and Ivy Bridge chipset are worth the $200 difference.

Just my 0.02 :)
 
To me, the HD 4000 , USB 3, NVIDIA GT650, 1600 MHz RAM, and Ivy Bridge chipset are worth the $200 difference.

Just my 0.02 :)

I agree. Even for resale.

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If you got a 2012 15" base refurb it would be $1529. This is the same thing that I got and am completely satisfied. You can't tell the difference between this one and a new machine, it's definitely a good deal. Oh and as far as 2011 vs 2012 go with the 2012 so you have USB 3 that will make the resale value higher in the future.

I agree with this as well.
 
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I got a used 2010 model for $900 (i5 2.53 arrandale, 8gb ram) in perfect shape with over a year of applecare remaining on it off ebay. With the money I saved I will pit in an SSD and it will be super fast. For most people the cpu makes very little differance, unless you game the graphics makes very little differance, thunderbolt is pretty much useless, usb 3 is great but there really arent many devices (inexpensive ones anyway) that take advantage of the extra speed (yet). So basically unless you game or do cpu intensive tasks (in which case a laptop isnt really ideal anyway) I would get an older model (either refurb or used) and pit an ssd in it. As for resale value the cheaper machine will probobly lose less money because by the time you sell it the retina style models will have replaced these models and all of these models will have depreciated to similar levels due to being last generation
 
Brand new inbox 2011 MBP for $1589 and no tax

or New cMBP for $1789 and no tax


I think that is not enough off???

Is the only diff Ivy and USB 3.0



Thanks

Not interested in rMBP

Both of those models are available right now as refurbs in the Apple Store for far $200-300 less. Every Apple refurb I've ever bought looks brand new and comes with the same 1 year warranty.
 
I am faced with a similar decision

used feb 2011 15" MBP with 6750 for $1100 or refurb 2012 15" MBP with 650m for $1600

pretty sure I'll get the latter - warranty, IB, Kepler, usb3, runs cooler

my fear is that rmbp refurb hots the store right after I buy for $1900
 
The base 2012 retina refurb will probably be 15% off so it will most likely be $1869.
 
I am faced with a similar decision

used feb 2011 15" MBP with 6750 for $1100 or refurb 2012 15" MBP with 650m for $1600

pretty sure I'll get the latter - warranty, IB, Kepler, usb3, runs cooler

my fear is that rmbp refurb hots the store right after I buy for $1900

I has eliminated the rMBP as an option for 2 reason:

1. Way to many issues
2. I want to upgrade Ram and SSD

When they get it all sorted out, and an Intel process (Haswell) that can handle all those pixels, maybe..So in 2 years i'll be ready for a new retina laptop anyway
 
I has eliminated the rMBP as an option for 2 reason:

1. Way to many issues
2. I want to upgrade Ram and SSD

When they get it all sorted out, and an Intel process (Haswell) that can handle all those pixels, maybe..So in 2 years i'll be ready for a new retina laptop anyway

that's a good plan

right now I have a Y580 laptop with 660m GTX (same chip as the 650m - but the 650M is clocked HIGHER in the MBP) and it handles everything I throw at it.

IMO (like the 6750m) it will still be pretty good in 2 years. Unlike the x1600 and 330m GPUs in past MBPs.
 
To me, the HD 4000 iGPU, USB 3, NVIDIA GT650 dGPU, 1600 MHz RAM, and Ivy Bridge chipset are worth the $200 difference.

Just my 0.02 :)

I agree with ^^^this^^^, but....

I got a used 2010 model for $900 (i5 2.53 arrandale, 8gb ram) in perfect shape with over a year of applecare remaining on it off ebay. With the money I saved I will pit in an SSD and it will be super fast. For most people the cpu makes very little differance, unless you game the graphics makes very little differance, thunderbolt is pretty much useless, usb 3 is great but there really arent many devices (inexpensive ones anyway) that take advantage of the extra speed (yet). So basically unless you game or do cpu intensive tasks (in which case a laptop isnt really ideal anyway) I would get an older model (either refurb or used) and pit an ssd in it. As for resale value the cheaper machine will probobly lose less money because by the time you sell it the retina style models will have replaced these models and all of these models will have depreciated to similar levels due to being last generation

I agree with ^^^this^^^ even more.

I went with the second route and last night bought a Late 2011 cMBP-15 base (upgraded to 8GB RAM) with less than 100 battery cycles, for less than $1000 (including a retail copy of Win 7, but w/o box and software).

I'm going to put a 750GB hybrid and 16GB memory in it & buy the box/software online, and I'll have a nearly new blazing fast computer with 16GB & 750GB (with 13 second boots) for under $1200.

I was going to buy a base rMBP, but now I feel like I can wait until Haswell, 802.11ac, and some of the issues get ironed out.
 
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