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Howard2k

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Please can someone post the 5Ghz connection settings you’re seeing. Preferably when you’re within a foot of your router, along with the router make and model.


Specifically interested in the TX rate, MCS Index, and your MHz channel spacing if you know it.
 
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I would also be interested in this as I am thinking of getting ken for my wife. I am actually really disappointed that apple kept it on Bluetooth 4.2 while recent MacBook Pro’s and even Mac mini have Bluetooth 5.0. Would love to know what the deal here is...
 
I posted in the other thread but I have an air in the mail and a wave 2 router. Will report back once I get it.
 
macOS. Just hold the option key and click the wifi icon at the top. :)
How is this? I had it on the table next to the Time Capsule.
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How is this? I had it on the table next to the Time Capsule.
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Thanks! Looks like 2x2 too.
All the results so far look like 2x2, so I guess we just need to wait for someone with a confirmed Wave 2 router to see their connection stats. I know one of the members here said that they have one en-route so we'll see how that looks.
 
Thanks! Looks like 2x2 too.
All the results so far look like 2x2, so I guess we just need to wait for someone with a confirmed Wave 2 router to see their connection stats. I know one of the members here said that they have one en-route so we'll see how that looks.
I can do it again tomorrow at the office where I have a Ubiquiti wireless network if that helps too.
 
I posted in the other thread but I have an air in the mail and a wave 2 router. Will report back once I get it.


Hey just wondering if that arrived and if you have a chance to test it?
I hear back from one of the reviewers who has a Wave 2 router and they stated that they only see Wave 1 speeds.

So it looks like this is reduced wifi like the nTB Pro.

Not a big deal for most people of course, but I have to say that's disappointing if true that this would have slower wifi than the 2015 MacBook and 2015 MacBook Pro.
 
Here is mine... looks like everyone else's. Can I ask you to explain what it is you are looking for... and what the difference in the numbers mean?
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Here is mine... looks like everyone else's. Can I ask you to explain what it is you are looking for... and what the difference in the numbers mean?
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G14 classified I’m afraid.

802.11ac is the current wifi standard, and Wave 2 is the more recent implementation. 80Mhz is Wave 1 and with a two antenna system, as in the MBA and nTB MBPro, this is capable of 867Mb/s.

Wave 2 supports 160Mhz (see your 80Mhz reference) and up to 1.7Gb/s (double the performance).


For most it makes no difference, but if using a NAS that’s significant.

The other MBPros going back to 2015 use Wave 1 with a three antenna deployment, so up to 1.3Gb/s.

So nTB Pro and MBA up to 867Mb/s. (2x2 Wave 1)
Other Pro units up to 1.3Gb/s. (3x3 Wave 1)
I was hoping for at least 2x2 Wave 2 (1.7Gb/s)


If you’re just surfing the Internet it’s not hugely relevant.


Edit: to be clear, it’s still good. Several “known brand” laptops are coming with even more inferior wifi.
 
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G14 classified I’m afraid.

802.11ac is the current wifi standard, and Wave 2 is the more recent implementation. 80Mhz is Wave 1 and with a two antenna system, as in the MBA and nTB MBPro, this is capable of 867Mb/s.

Wave 2 supports 160Mhz (see your 80Mhz reference) and up to 1.7Gb/s (double the performance).


For most it makes no difference, but if using a NAS that’s significant.

The other MBPros going back to 2015 use Wave 1 with a three antenna deployment, so up to 1.3Gb/s.

So nTB Pro and MBA up to 867Mb/s. (2x2 Wave 1)
Other Pro units up to 1.3Gb/s. (3x3 Wave 1)
I was hoping for at least 2x2 Wave 2 (1.7Gb/s)


If you’re just surfing the Internet it’s not hugely relevant.


Edit: to be clear, it’s still good. Several “known brand” laptops are coming with even more inferior wifi.
Thanks. I appreciate the explanation!
 
Just to confirm I did see similar results. Although the implementation does seem to work slightly better. The TX rate is usually a step or two higher on the new air compared to the old air at distance.
 
Just to confirm I did see similar results. Although the implementation does seem to work slightly better. The TX rate is usually a step or two higher on the new air compared to the old air at distance.

Thanks. When you have a chance, please can you confirm that it doesn’t support 160Mhz channel width.
 
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