27" and possibly 32" LED Cinema Displays

[ermir4444]

I have been waiting for the longest time for apple to introduce the 27" LED IPS ACD. When do you people think it will come out and what are you willing to pay for it?

There are some internet rumours that point out to a slightly bigger (possibly 32" LED ACD). Considering Apple pioneered the 30" ACD back in 2004 with the crazy resolution they are more than capable to change the monitor game again.Back in 2004 the 30" was a behemoth. What resolution and at what size do you think Apple would put in this 2010 behemoth and at what price?

Let the speculation begin.

 

[Hellhammer]

I doubt that there'll be bigger than 27" due price. Support for extra high resolutions is bad and pixel density would be ridiculous, meaning that you can't read text on it.

My guesses:

With 16:9 aspect ratio: 3840x2160 or 4096x2304
With 16:9 aspect ratio: 3840x2400 or 5120x3200

I still doubt it...

 

[zedsdead]

I expect Apple to update it along side the Mac Pro. If they leave the price point the same as the 24", that would be amazing, then they could add a more expensive 32" to the mix. It is not a huge difference, but many people will likely be upset if they lose resolution due to the aspect ratio change.

 

[ermir4444]

Well i think they will keep the 24" and decrease the price.

24" - 1920x1200 - $799
27" - 2560x1440 - $1299
32" - 3840x2160 - $1799

They might even remove the 24" from the list or they could even replace it with a 21.5 @ 1920x1080 @599

 

[Hellhammer]

Well i think they will keep the 24" and decrease the price.

24" - 1920x1200 - $799
27" - 2560x1440 - $1299
32" - 3840x2160 - $1799

They might even remove the 24" from the list or they could even replace it with a 21.5 @ 1920x1080 @599

799$ still sounds too much for 24"... 27" is 16:9 so it's likely that all will be then so 21.5" with 1920x1080 sounds fair, priced at 500-600$. 27" can't be too expensive as otherwise you can get iMac so I would say 1000-1300$. 32" for 1800$ sounds reasonable though

 

[WilliamG]

I don't think we'll see any higher resolution displays at this point. The 27" is almost too high of a res for normal computing, especially since Apple hasn't figured out proper font scaling for OS X like Windows has had for years. That's actually one of my biggest beefs with Apple at the moment...

 

[mrsir2009]

Anything bigger than 27" is getting a bit stupid for a computer screen. 32" is more like a TV screen. I hope they bring out a 27" though

 

[Transporteur]

Anything bigger than 27" is getting a bit stupid for a computer screen.

But you do realise that there are 30" screens available for roughly 6 years now, don't you?

> 27" is anything but stupid! My 30" real estate lasted exactly for 2 month, after I added additional displays to my computer.
It's like horse power or RAM, you can never have enough!

 

[ermir4444]

But you do realise that there are 30" screens available for roughly 6 years now, don't you?

> 27" is anything but stupid! My 30" real estate lasted exactly for 2 month, after I added additional displays to my computer.
It's like horse power or RAM, you can never have enough!

You have a point man. You cannot ever have enough of screen real estate. I have seen people with 3 of 30" ACD in one setup so i think one 32" or 34" by that matter wont be that out of ordinary. Remember Apple introduced the 30" ACD when the king of the hill was the 24". The best thing about it was that people did not complain lol.

 

[ermir4444]

How many people would consider buying a 32" LED cinema display if Apple releases on during WWDC? I am really curious is there will be a market for such a screen considering that the 27" @ 2560:1440 (Quad 720p) is certainly big enough even for professionals.
Lets say Apple releases a 32" 3840:2160 (Quad 1080p) @ $1899 and
27" 2560:1440 (Quad 720p) @ $1199

Wich one would you consider buying?

Id get the 27" and mate it to either the upcoming MBA or a 15" MBP im planing to get. I highly doubt a single MDP would handle such a resolution but we can expect anything from Apple since they pioneered the 30" @ 2560:1600 in 5 years ago wich was unheard of at the time. They also pioneered the 27" and i truly think it is not the replacement of the old 30" since it has less pixels. I think its time for Apple to wonder the world once more with the true replacement for the old 30" behemoth.

 

[ValSalva]

How many people would consider buying a 32" LED cinema display if Apple releases on during WWDC? I am really curious is there will be a market for such a screen considering that the 27" @ 2560:1440 (Quad 720p) is certainly big enough even for professionals.
Lets say Apple releases a 32" 3840:2160 (Quad 1080p) @ $1899 and
27" 2560:1440 (Quad 720p) @ $1199

Wich one would you consider buying?

Id get the 27" and mate it to either the upcoming MBA or a 15" MBP im planing to get. I highly doubt a single MDP would handle such a resolution but we can expect anything from Apple since they pioneered the 30" @ 2560:1600 in 5 years ago wich was unheard of at the time. They also pioneered the 27" and i truly think it is not the replacement of the old 30" since it has less pixels. I think its time for Apple to wonder the world once more with the true replacement for the old 30" behemoth.

I'd consider a 32" ACD with two caveats. It would have to have a matte option. With smaller screens it is easier to move lights, pull shades, tilt or swivel a screen, etc. if the display is glossy. At 32" many of these options are less possible making distracting reflections that much more of a problem.

The dot pitch would have to be no less than on a 30" display. At 32" the tendency is to sit a bit further from the screen. If a 32" ACD has the same dot pitch as the 27" ACD/iMac display text will appear very very tiny. On a laptop one sits very close to the screen to type so that's less of a problem. I don't want to have to be a foot or two close to a 32" screen.

 

[Keebler]

the display rumour is driving me nuts right now. as in today b/c I'm in the market for 2 x 24" displays and just saw that Dell's U2410 are now $200 off for this week so $499 before taxes and shipping.

As much as I'm a Mac fanboy, this one is tempting. Sale is until June 11th (this friday) so i've made Ical reminders for me to check and hopefully Apple releases something (for both my needs selfishly and the fact it's been a long time since their current 24" were released

I don't want to miss out on the Dell deals.

 

[boed]

How many people would consider buying a 32" LED cinema display if Apple releases on during WWDC? I am really curious is there will be a market for such a screen considering that the 27" @ 2560:1440 (Quad 720p) is certainly big enough even for professionals.

The 27" might be big enough for some professionals. I work for a graphics house and while I currently have a 30", I would gladly trade up to a 32" as soon as they are available. We have many 30" displays but only for the professionals as you call us. The accounting group would really appreciate our large displays so they'll go to a good cause. There are plenty of people at the graphics group I used to work for who are hoping for larger screens as well so they'd like to upgrade from their current 30" screens as well. An acquaintance of mine works for a venture capital company. All his top execs have 30" screens at home and at the office because he told me that was the biggest computer display that were available. I have no doubt he'll be replacing them as soon as 32" models are available. I also know quite a few people who have PCs that use them for gaming; many of them have 30" displays. While some people such as receptionits and people who just surf the web occaisionally and check their e-mail might not be interested in 32" displays, there are plenty of people who would be interested.

I keep hearing people say things like a 30" display is a niche market. I agree and 19" displays are for a niche as well. Every market segment is a niche. While the market for $20,000 cars is larger than those looking for cars over $50,000, that hasn't stopped BMW, Ferrari, Lanborghini, Lexus, Infiniti etc. etc. from making a profit in that target market and yet GM failed to make a profit in just about any market. Sell a good product at the right price and you can make a profit.

 

[kasakka]

There is no real market for over 30" high res displays and no panels made at higher resolutions than 2560x1600.

With OSX's lack of resolution independent scaling it would make no sense to have higher resolutions.

 

[boed]

There is no real market for over 30" high res displays.

Thanks for clearing that up - I thought I really wanted a screen bigger than 30" - now I know thanks to your market research that I don't and all the people I know who thought they wanted larger screens were also mistaken

 

[kasakka]

Thanks for clearing that up - I thought I really wanted a screen bigger than 30" - now I know thanks to your market research that I don't and all the people I know who thought they wanted larger screens were also mistaken

Even 30" displays have a pretty small clientele, mostly just creative professionals working in graphics or video. Display companies release very few new display models at that size compared to flooding the market with cheapo TN panel displays and big TVs for the typical consumer.

There also isn't a huge drive for bigger resolutions because most people still use graphics cards with DVI and that only goes up to 2560x1600. As more people start adopting Windows 7/Vista with its resolution independent scaling and programs start to support it, we will more likely see higher resolutions on smaller displays rather than bigger displays with even higher resolution.