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Mike Teezie

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Hey guys, this isn't a rumor post.

I was just thinking about all the things that are suposed to be coming out. I started looking at the 20" Display on my desk - and thought, "Why would anybody need a 30" Display?!"

That's ten inches bigger than the massive monitor on my desk now! What kind of mammoth desk is it going to take to sit such a beast on? You'll have to get wall mounts for the thing like a plasma TV.

All of my non-computer geek friends are amazed at the sheer size of the 20" Display I have. When I tell them there is a 23" HD Display, they think its ridiculous. I would like to have a 23", but that's about all the desktop real estate I could afford. I have my monitors (recording speakers, not display) pushed out much wider then I would like, just to get them around my 20".

I'm not complaining about it, I think it would be the coolest to do *anything* on a Dual 3.0 G5 with a 30" HD Display. I would just sit and stare. I wish someone had a scale drawing of a PM G4 with a 23" vs. a G5 with a 30". Obviously there isnt a new display yet, but there was that artist rendition a few weeks back that I thought was really cool. I'd just likt to see the sheer size difference in the two.
 
I think the answer is simple: as consumer monitors get bigger and bigger, pro models must also get larger. Pro monitors need to be big enough to design the stuff that goes on consumer monitors. If consumers are buying 20-inch iMacs, then pros need 30-inch monitors to display the games/videos/Flash animations that they create for the 20-inchers, plus all the palettes, tools, helper apps, etc. they need to work on those things.
 
replace the need

replace the need for dual displays. One display, to rule them all, and I could use a nice tv set, if you get what I mean.
 
a 30" LCD would go beyond the scope of a computer monitor. It *would* be a tv - and would likely be marketed as a such.

The G5 & 30" HD LCD w/ TV Tuner Pack - only $4999.00

I'd buy it. :D
 
carletonmusic said:
a 30" LCD would go beyond the scope of a computer monitor. It *would* be a tv - and would likely be marketed as a such.

The G5 & 30" HD LCD w/ TV Tuner Pack - only $4999.00

I'd buy it. :D


where can i order... : )

someday, right... *crosses fingers*... that would be hot!!!
 
if apple is serious about becoming the digital hub in a home, a 30" monitor/tv (or even bigger) would been an excellent component. why not have a setup that would let you do your computing when you needed to, and then allow you to stream your music and watch tv/movies when you weren't working? sounds good to me

random idea - why not take this huge display, and add all the components of the computer to the back of it (it's already going to be massive, might as well go all out). wireless everything standard. optional LCD remote control. your tv would be your computer. ok, so that really isn't practical, but i think i would probably enjoy it. and it would only cost $10,000. ha!
 
carletonmusic said:
a 30" LCD would go beyond the scope of a computer monitor. It *would* be a tv - and would likely be marketed as a such.

The G5 & 30" HD LCD w/ TV Tuner Pack - only $4999.00

I'd buy it. :D
Sony has a really really really sweet 30" LCD TV that I saw one day at Circuit City. $7k though :(
 
30 inches is very large and would be very expensive, but some people would buy it for whatever reason. My only concern would be dead pixels--if I'm going to spend $7000 on an LCD display, I would be pretty pissed if it had dead pixels (and at that size, wouldn't it be likely to?).
 
Sharp makes an HD-ready 30" LCD for $3499. I would imagine Apple could best that price at $2999. It already has an extremely competitive price with its 23".
 
Monitor size has always been of interest to me, mainly because I have bad eye sight. As monitors get larger, one question comes up for me. How close can you get to this thing before your eyes begin to get damaged?

For a 60" TV, you are supposed to sit at minimum 15' away to avoid damage to your eyes. So, if you have a 30" monitor, you should have to sit 7.5' away from it to avoid eye damage! Most people sit 3' away at most from current 20" monitors!

My eye sight is only going to get worse as I get older. Desktop space is great to have, but it's pretty pointless if your eyes are too damaged to even see anything.
 
the bigger the screen and the better the resolution, the better as far as i'm concerned...

it's the only thing i dislike about my G4 iMac, (the resolution) and i hate it. i'm learning GoLive right now and to do anything is a real pain, i can have about three palettes open and one window, it's sooo unproductive i just don't even want to bother. whereas in my office, i have a 22" CRT and a 17" SGI flat panel with a 1200 res. it's awesome, i can have all the palettes open and all the windows at once, so i don't need to move stuff around all the time. it's worth travelling into the office just for the extra (screen) real estate.

if Apple do bring out a 30" i will only be interested if the resolution is better than the HD 23" they have now. my 22" CRT at 1600x1200 i always thought was great, until i got my SGI, and it's sooooo much crisper, which i guess makes it easier on the eyes too, right?
 
RBMaraman said:
Monitor size has always been of interest to me, mainly because I have bad eye sight. As monitors get larger, one question comes up for me. How close can you get to this thing before your eyes begin to get damaged?

For a 60" TV, you are supposed to sit at minimum 15' away to avoid damage to your eyes. So, if you have a 30" monitor, you should have to sit 7.5' away from it to avoid eye damage! Most people sit 3' away at most from current 20" monitors!

My eye sight is only going to get worse as I get older. Desktop space is great to have, but it's pretty pointless if your eyes are too damaged to even see anything.

Are you sure that applies to LCD screens? CRT monitors blast electrons literally into your eyes. LCD as far as I know do not.
 
carletonmusic said:
Sharp makes an HD-ready 30" LCD for $3499. I would imagine Apple could best that price at $2999. It already has an extremely competitive price with its 23".
HD is a pretty low resolution for computers, though (1280x720 or something like that)...
 
yoman said:
Are you sure that applies to LCD screens? CRT monitors blast electrons literally into your eyes. LCD as far as I know do not.

It applies to all screens. LCD, CRT, Plasma, OLED, and the list continues.

I've had eye problems since birth, and I still go to the eye specialist that performed my eye surgery when I was less than 1 year old. He is one of the best eye doctors in the midwest, and when I asked him about this last year, he told me that anything projecting an image is damaging to the eyes at a close distance.

The fact is, your eyes can easily become strained, and in most cases, people don't even realize that their eyes are being permanently damaged.
 
I hit 40 and my eyes went "poof" for reading. Off to get the magnifyers for that. When I had to replace my monitor; I went for a 20" (Trinitron CRT)because my 17 was getting tough to focus on for some things. I run at 1600 X 1200 and sit about 4 1/2 feet back from it now and all is grand. A 30" would allow me to sit in a lounger with my keyboard and mouse on my lap... awesome... I wouldn't have to go to the couch to fall asleep! :D Bring on the big screens!
 
jamdr said:
30 inches is very large and would be very expensive, but some people would buy it for whatever reason. My only concern would be dead pixels--if I'm going to spend $7000 on an LCD display, I would be pretty pissed if it had dead pixels (and at that size, wouldn't it be likely to?).

size isnt the issue, its about resolution. so the 23 inch apple HD LCD is 1920x1200. It displays true HD mataria, while other 30 inch LCDs and plasmas can be 1280 by 768 or something close to that. So apples 30 inch display better be at least the res of their 23 inch display otherwise it will only be good for TV.

Tyler
 
TyleRomeo said:
size isnt the issue, its about resolution. so the 23 inch apple HD LCD is 1920x1200. It displays true HD mataria, while other 30 inch LCDs and plasmas can be 1280 by 768 or something close to that. So apples 30 inch display better be at least the res of their 23 inch display otherwise it will only be good for TV.

Tyler


I really hope that the supposed new form factor AL look have a good increase in resolution for the same price point or lower. The days of digital photography/video are here, and I think the demand to see more is happening. Of course add a TV tuner (preferabl digital) and that would be even sweeter. Apple have broken through price floors before on items, if they could do it to the LCD that would be fab.
 
How big does this thing looks to you? :)

(There is a 1.25% margin of error on my render, umless I totally screwed this up. I started from the Powermac G5 spec sheet for the scale) Cans of coke were added to get a better idea of the scale.

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Western consumerism is all about phallustic symbolism... once upon a time someone mustve said who would evern need a Hummer H2, or a Excursion, or a suburban? Well, same thing with lcd monitors, bigger is better.
 
srobert said:
How big does this thing looks to you? :)

(There is a 1.25% margin of error on my render, umless I totally screwed this up. I started from the Powermac G5 spec sheet for the scale) Cans of coke were added to get a better idea of the scale.

Click thumbnail for full size pic.


WOW!!! thats taller than the g5 itself...

i was at my local apple store a few days days ago looking at monitors... i couldnt believe the difference between even the 20 and 23... the 23 would look huge on my desk... i cant imagine what the 30 would be like...

if apple does indeed make the thing... i guess ill find out... so long as it isnt ten grand... which by apple standards is only a mostly ridiculous figure...
 
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