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I went to great expense upgrading my 2.5GHz MBP from 2GB to 4GB RAM but, taking the odd peek at iStat, the computer never seems to use more than 2GB of it.

I've checked out "About this Mac" and the memory is marked as 'ok' but even when I get Photoshop doing some filters, iMovie generating thumbnails, iTunes playing a video, Google Earth staring into someone's garden etc., it still doesn't use much more than 2GB.

Can anyone explain this? Was 4GB a waste of money?
 
You succumbed to the "max out your RAM" syndrome prevalent in these forums. It was probably a waste of money. 2 GB is sufficient for most people.
 
You succumbed to the "max out your RAM" syndrome prevalent in these forums. It was probably a waste of money. 2 GB is sufficient for most people.

Really?

I was considering maxing out my RAM for a MacBook. Would it be likely that it would never be used or is it different for the MB because of integrated graphics?
 
You succumbed to the "max out your RAM" syndrome prevalent in these forums. It was probably a waste of money. 2 GB is sufficient for most people.

So why would the MBP accept 4GB if it never uses it? It gets hot, it slows down, but it never uses the extra RAM.
 
So why would the MBP accept 4GB if it never uses it? It gets hot, it slows down, but it never uses the extra RAM.

It is able to use upto 4 GB, there is no technical or software limitations that would force the system to use only 2GB out of the 4 you have installed. It must be that you are not pushing the system enough in your daily activities. Instead of memory utilization, page ins and page outs are a better judge of whether you need more ram. In a 2GB system if you see too much of memory swapping to disk, then you need more ram, otherwise for MOST people 2 GB is enough. I personally use parallels VM so the extra ram would benefit me if my mbp could support 4GB.
 
Certain processes are memory intensive, others are processor intensive. I'm not technically savvy enough to tell you which are which, but processor intensive seems to be the one to pay attention to. As for the MacBook's integrated graphics, I don't think an increase in memory will make any difference.
 
I was once told that the ram chips you add to your mac have to all match. The reason is because it messes up the continuity and the computer will not utilize the added ram chip... im not a computer scientist. But it seems to make sense.
 
By "went to great expense" I gather you paid for the RAM upgrade when you ordered your MBP from Apple? Third party RAM is always cheaper and installation is fairly simple and straightforward. As others have suggested, your application usage doesn't require it.
 
I was once told that the ram chips you add to your mac have to all match. The reason is because it messes up the continuity and the computer will not utilize the added ram chip... im not a computer scientist. But it seems to make sense.

Not completely correct, but the difference between having a 2x512M or a 1x1G config is not too different in performance (maybe 1-2%), even in the macbook with integrated graphics.
 
By "went to great expense" I gather you paid for the RAM upgrade when you ordered your MBP from Apple? Third party RAM is always cheaper and installation is fairly simple and straightforward. As others have suggested, your application usage doesn't require it.

Absolutely not - it's Crucial. But £50 is a great expense if it's not even going to be used.
 
I was once told that the ram chips you add to your mac have to all match. The reason is because it messes up the continuity and the computer will not utilize the added ram chip... im not a computer scientist. But it seems to make sense.

Sorry, but your assumption is wrong. I use 3GB of RAM (1GB Apple, 2GB OWC). When I run a VM, my memory is utilized fully.

The reason it is suggested to run "matched" RAM modules is for "Memory Interleaving" which increases memory performance as the OS will use memory banks from both Memory Modules simultaneously. If they are not matched, the OS will use Memory in a normal fashion.
 
page ins and page outs are a better judge of whether you need more ram.

So 215,000 Page Ins and 0 Page Outs probably means I don't need more??

I've opened every single app and my RAM usage has gone up to 2.75GB, so the other 2GB clearly works but obviously just isn't needed.

Perhaps a lesson for other MBP owners thinking of increasing the RAM. Maybe I'll eBay one of the chips.
 
So 215,000 Page Ins and 0 Page Outs probably means I don't need more??

I've opened every single app and my RAM usage has gone up to 2.75GB, so the other 2GB clearly works but obviously just isn't needed.

Perhaps a lesson for other MBP owners thinking of increasing the RAM. Maybe I'll eBay one of the chips.

Now you have got this right. So maybe 3GB would have worked out as more than enough for you. But then you should think about the future as well. Now you wont need more RAM for a while even with more memory intensive applications in the future.
 
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