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Looking to upgrade from my trusty old 4s. Is there actually any difference between the 5 and 5c, apart from the obvious cosmetics ?
Main uses are calling, music, the occasional movie, and browsing.
 
The 5c is essentially the 5 with some minor improvements.

The choice is really between plastic or metal. The 5 will do just fine for what you would use it for.
 
Looking to upgrade from my trusty old 4s. Is there actually any difference between the 5 and 5c, apart from the obvious cosmetics ?
Main uses are calling, music, the occasional movie, and browsing.
What's the point of upgrading from a 2011 phone to a 2012 phone? Get an iPhone 6 or wait for the 6s (4 months left).
 
Not everyone wants or needs the latest and greatest.
Yes, but you will agree that buying a 2012 phone is just nonsense (you can't even update to iOS 9 without turning it into a brick like happened to the iPhone 4s). For the same (or less) price you can get a top of the range 2015 phone which runs Lollipop buttery smooth.
 
Yes, but you will agree that buying a 2012 phone is just nonsense (you can't even update to iOS 9 without turning it into a brick like happened to the iPhone 4s). For the same (or less) price you can get a top of the range 2015 phone which runs Lollipop buttery smooth.
I have an iPhone 5. I am typing this post on it.

The 5c, 5s, 6 and 6+ are not what I want. I hate iOS 7 and 8 and I want iOS 6 back.

I do just fine with my iPhone 5. Not everyone wants to upgrade to the latest.
 
Yes, but you will agree that buying a 2012 phone is just nonsense (you can't even update to iOS 9 without turning it into a brick like happened to the iPhone 4s). For the same (or less) price you can get a top of the range 2015 phone which runs Lollipop buttery smooth.

It's certainly not nonsense depending on what someone might need and want and have the means to go for. It's closer to nonsense to assume that everyone should want the same things and is capable of getting them just because others want that.
 
It's certainly not nonsense depending on what someone might need and want and have the means to go for. It's closer to nonsense to assume that everyone should want the same things and is capable of getting them just because others want that.
The iPhone 5 is not even on the market anymore, so he would get a used one.

The iPhone 5 (or the 5c) is not a wise choice, today.

It has poor battery life with iOS 8, lags (even if performance's good on 8.3), bad compatibility with iOS 9 (90% sure), ecc... And it's the same price of a top of the range Android phone (lollipop buttery smooth).
 
The iPhone 5 is not even on the market anymore, so he would get a used one.

The iPhone 5 (or the 5c) is not a wise choice, today.

It has poor battery life with iOS 8, lags (even if performance's good on 8.3), bad compatibility with iOS 9 (90% sure), ecc... And it's the same price of a top of the range Android phone (lollipop buttery smooth).

Some people don't want to be on the latest OS. This would not matter to them.
 
Not everyone wants or needs the latest and greatest.

Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest !
I only want a pay as you go phone, without any contract, so can't justify paying over £500 for a phone.

If it's only a question of cosmetics, the iPhone 5 wins every time. Thanks for your help!

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Yes, but you will agree that buying a 2012 phone is just nonsense (you can't even update to iOS 9 without turning it into a brick like happened to the iPhone 4s). For the same (or less) price you can get a top of the range 2015 phone which runs Lollipop buttery smooth.

My 4s is running 8.3 just fine.
 
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest !
I only want a pay as you go phone, without any contract, so can't justify paying over £500 for a phone.

If it's only a question of cosmetics, the iPhone 5 wins every time. Thanks for your help!

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My 4s is running 8.3 just fine.

Good joke! My girlfriend's iPhone 4s runs like a €80 android 2.3 phone with iOS 8.3 (I even factory restored it via DFU). You can improve the situation by disabling transparency. But iPhone 6 is on another planet. It's like comparing the worst FIAT ever produced with the best Ferrari ever produced.
 
Good joke! My girlfriend's iPhone 4s runs like a €80 android 2.3 phone with iOS 8.3 (I even factory restored it via DFU). You can improve the situation by disabling transparency. But iPhone 6 is on another planet. It's like comparing the worst FIAT ever produced with the best Ferrari ever produced.

Whatever you say.
 
The iPhone 5 is not even on the market anymore, so he would get a used one.

The iPhone 5 (or the 5c) is not a wise choice, today.

It has poor battery life with iOS 8, lags (even if performance's good on 8.3), bad compatibility with iOS 9 (90% sure), ecc... And it's the same price of a top of the range Android phone (lollipop buttery smooth).

Been dealing with a few iPhone 5 phones for a few years and they are just fine as far as battery and iOS 8 goes. No one can speak as far as anything iOS 9 goes as nothing has been announced about it, so that's a moot point. It all depends what someone might want and need. As long as they are going into it knowing it all there's nothing wrong or unwise if that is what they decided would work for them.
 
In most cases, I would recommend keeping the 4s, and wait for iOS 9. If it's not supported, go ahead and get a 5, but software-wise, it won't last very long, just saying. If it is supported, it's said to be an optimisation release, so you have nothing to worry about. Get a SIM-only deal, and keep it for about a year, then you can probably save for a new phone then. Just my personal recommendation.
Just wondering though, what are you unhappy about with your 4s?
 
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest !
I only want a pay as you go phone, without any contract, so can't justify paying over £500 for a phone.

If it's only a question of cosmetics, the iPhone 5 wins every time. Thanks for your help!

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My 4s is running 8.3 just fine.

I had a 4s and it worked fine, but I upgraded to a 5s instead of a 5 when the 6 came out. It'll last longer than a 5 will as the specs are much better. With the 6 out a 5s second hand can be picked up pretty cheap. I'd recommend going for the best you can comfortably afford, and since the 5 will be obsolete before the 5s you'll get a better bang for your buck.
 
In most cases, I would recommend keeping the 4s, and wait for iOS 9. If it's not supported, go ahead and get a 5, but software-wise, it won't last very long, just saying. If it is supported, it's said to be an optimisation release, so you have nothing to worry about. Get a SIM-only deal, and keep it for about a year, then you can probably save for a new phone then. Just my personal recommendation.
Just wondering though, what are you unhappy about with your 4s?

Screens bust, battery life now very poor. Power button temperamental.
It's had a hard life. And I have a three year old grandson who likes to drop it at every opportunity.
Apart from that I love the phone. It has a really solid, quality feel about it...or it used to have !
 
It has poor battery life with iOS 8, lags (even if performance's good on 8.3), bad compatibility with iOS 9 (90% sure), ecc... And it's the same price of a top of the range Android phone (lollipop buttery smooth).

You are talking out of your ass mate. IPhone 5 on 8.3 is great. I was just thinking the other day that the iPhone 5 has held up so well that there is no incentive to upgrade. My battery life is great. I actually get around 1.5 days of use out of a full charge. And as for lag. You are misinformed again. I've never experienced lag where the phone is hung up and waiting for a response to be recognised. I'd say it is like 0.2 sec slower than when I bought it back in 2012

90% sure? I'm 90% sure that you are full of *****. There is a chance, as with every point update, but I'm feeling pretty good by past performance of the iPhone 5.

And plus, why buy the latest iPhone 6/6plus when we are 90% sure the 6s will have 2gb of RAM?
 
Good joke! My girlfriend's iPhone 4s runs like a €80 android 2.3 phone with iOS 8.3 (I even factory restored it via DFU). You can improve the situation by disabling transparency. But iPhone 6 is on another planet. It's like comparing the worst FIAT ever produced with the best Ferrari ever produced.

I still use a iPhone 4S and will continue using it(same goes for the iPhone 1st, I have):).

The 4S is pretty fast, even in 2015. I play games like MC5,MC4,Dead Space,Mass Effect,etc...and I have no issues. Everything is smooth, don't know what you're talking about...:confused:

I wish I could get iOS 6 back, sadly that would probably kill my unlock for AT&T.:(
 
You are talking out of your ass mate. IPhone 5 on 8.3 is great. I was just thinking the other day that the iPhone 5 has held up so well that there is no incentive to upgrade. My battery life is great. I actually get around 1.5 days of use out of a full charge. And as for lag. You are misinformed again. I've never experienced lag where the phone is hung up and waiting for a response to be recognised. I'd say it is like 0.2 sec slower than when I bought it back in 2012

90% sure? I'm 90% sure that you are full of *****. There is a chance, as with every point update, but I'm feeling pretty good by past performance of the iPhone 5.

And plus, why buy the latest iPhone 6/6plus when we are 90% sure the 6s will have 2gb of RAM?

I am an iPhone 5 owner. I can notice lags (the framerate is not 60 fps stable, if you say the opposite, you're lying). I can notice slow processes (try to tap when an app opens immediately. It won't get your tap before 0,5-0,9 seconds). And if you say you can get 1.5 days of battery life, give us a proof, because I hardly believe that. The leading result I have seen it's 8 hours of usage (light usage with strong signal and NO LTE).

Here you can see the differences between 8.3 and 7.1. Not that huge difference, but it means A LOT in everyday life - and do not forget that iOS 8 lags on iPhone 4s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBV9mvJb5ls

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PS: watch your language.

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I still use a iPhone 4S and will continue using it(same goes for the iPhone 1st, I have):).

The 4S is pretty fast, even in 2015. I play games like MC5,MC4,Dead Space,Mass Effect,etc...and I have no issues. Everything is smooth, don't know what you're talking about...:confused:

I wish I could get iOS 6 back, sadly that would probably kill my unlock for AT&T.:(

Try to use a recent iPhone, you'll understand that iPhone 4s' performances are a joke!
 
Looking to upgrade from my trusty old 4s. Is there actually any difference between the 5 and 5c, apart from the obvious cosmetics ?
Main uses are calling, music, the occasional movie, and browsing.

Yes there is a BIG difference between the 5 and the 5c

Get the 5c as it has over twice as much LTE bands than its older brother!
 
Go with the 5C if you can find a 16GB model. 8GB will leave you constantly battling for storage space. The 5C was released in September 2013 (not 2012), and as others have said, it does offer improvements over the 5. I mainly use it for the camera, photo apps, maps, music, tumblr, flickr, occasional web browsing.. Oh yeah, and the phone too..and I haven't had any issues yet with lag or performance. It's a good phone.

There's a rumored 6C model that will likely be released in the fall if true. The current 6 model prices will come down at that time as well, so you'll have more options if you can wait until Sept/Oct
 
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The iPhone 5 is not even on the market anymore, so he would get a used one.

The iPhone 5 (or the 5c) is not a wise choice, today.

It has poor battery life with iOS 8, lags (even if performance's good on 8.3), bad compatibility with iOS 9 (90% sure), ecc... And it's the same price of a top of the range Android phone (lollipop buttery smooth).
Nonsense. We have two 5c at home and they do certainly not lag.

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I am an iPhone 5 owner. I can notice lags (the framerate is not 60 fps stable, if you say the opposite, you're lying). I can notice slow processes (try to tap when an app opens immediately. It won't get your tap before 0,5-0,9 seconds). And if you say you can get 1.5 days of battery life, give us a proof, because I hardly believe that. The leading result I have seen it's 8 hours of usage (light usage with strong signal and NO LTE).

Here you can see the differences between 8.3 and 7.1. Not that huge difference, but it means A LOT in everyday life - and do not forget that iOS 8 lags on iPhone 4s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBV9mvJb5ls

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PS: watch your language.
**** 'watch your language' BS!
My 5c gets one entire workday of battery. With streaming, music, browsing and calls over lte and wifi. A lot of it on high brightness, too.
 
My 5c gets one entire workday of battery. With streaming, music, browsing and calls over lte and wifi. A lot of it on high brightness, too.

Yeah, for basic everyday tasks I find the battery can easily give me an entire day of use. I use my iPad more than my phone, so I often only need a charge every couple days.

The battery starts to drain fast with demanding tasks like using the camera for extended periods of time, but the battery also charges fast. I get a full charge in a little under an hour.
 
Go with the 5C if you can find a 16GB model. 8GB will leave you constantly battling for storage space. The 5C was released in September 2013 (not 2012), and as others have said, it does offer improvements over the 5. I mainly use it for the camera, photo apps, maps, music, tumblr, flickr, occasional web browsing.. Oh yeah, and the phone too..and I haven't had any issues yet with lag or performance. It's a good phone.

There's a rumored 6C model that will likely be released in the fall if true. The current 6 model prices will come down at that time as well, so you'll have more options if you can wait until Sept/Oct

Thanks for that. Can you tell me what improvements the 5c has over the 5 ?
Your usage sounds very similar to mine.
And it must be 16gb for me. My music would overflow an 8gb model.
 
Thanks for that. Can you tell me what improvements the 5c has over the 5 ?
Your usage sounds very similar to mine.
And it must be 16gb for me. My music would overflow an 8gb model.

Mainly better battery performance, more LTE bands, and some camera improvements. Not many differences, but enough to make it a better choice over the 5 IMO.
 
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