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Nice. Do you know if Swisscom offers unlocking for a fee?
No I don't think, but you can always unlock, when/if the 2.0 final firmware gets unlocked.

I would like to ask some from Switzerland, if it is possible they buy the phone and send it to another European country, or do they have to use the "Liberty Uno" plan?
 
They may be saving UK£40 or so from the leaked O2 price but no six months of free unlimited data - in fact data rates look mean for the Swiss.
 
The 2.0 hack unlock is useless to me, I want a legit unlocked iPhone this time. I wish some country offered a true unlocked 3G iPhone.
 
The 2.0 hack unlock is useless to me, I want a legit unlocked iPhone this time. I wish some country offered a true unlocked 3G iPhone.

France and Germany both offered an unlocked one before because of laws in their country, did they not? I would think they'll have to again.
 
France and Germany both offered an unlocked one before because of laws in their country, did they not? I would think they'll have to again.

Italy has an unlocked iPhone too, the 16GB one is €659...
 
France and Germany both offered an unlocked one before because of laws in their country, did they not? I would think they'll have to again.
In Germany there was a (very expensive) unlocked iPhone, but only for a short period of time. The legal issues that lead to this were soon resolved and then they didn't offer it anymore. I don't think there will be one this time.
 
Italy iPhone rates from Vodafone

Italy has an unlocked iPhone too, the 16GB one is €659...

Vodafone italia has 8GB prices from
€49 (+ 24 x €99/month contract) = 600MB 3G data within Italy , and 900 minutes to Italian numbers and 900 SMS'es
€99 (+ 24 x €79/month contract) = 600MB 3G data within Italy , and unlimited minutes to vodaphone numbers, 250 to Italian numbers and 250 SMS'es
€199 (+ 24 x €59/month contract) = 600MB 3G data within Italy , and 400 minutes to Italian numbers and 400 SMS'es
with an extra 'Daily Travel Plan' you are allowed to use 5MB of data per day when abroad, there are extra 15cts here and there for calls above the limits or per answerphone mailbox usage.

with an EXISTING vodafone PAYG contract
the 8GB is €499, 16GB is €569
this doesn't include data which is an extra at 150MB per week charged at €3 per week (its called "Vodafone Pack for iPhone" - also available for an old CC based contract charged at €10 per month with the 600MB limit)

Vodafone finally offers the 8GB at €199 with a €9 per month easy finance plan, provided one of the 3 contracts is also in force, but this available only from 20th July.

there is NO mention of locked/unlocked status, but every single phone I've bought in Italy over the last 15 years has been unlocked by default... just the local market expectations. No idea if/how locked the Vodafone PAYG iPhone 3G will be. There is NO MENTION of any WiFi cloud connectivity, just 3G at up to 7megabits/sec , although in my region that bit of the UMTS network is currently unavailable.

TIM Telecom Italia Mobile have similar rates : contract from €0 up-front, no idea yet about the back charges. the PAYG costs are the same as Vodafone the 8GB is €499, 16GB is €569.
D:apple:vid
 
How are they gona tax me if I have it opened and uses it like a used cell phone when I go through the airport?
 
Its not that cheap.

What are the alternatives? I need an unlocked version because I travel too much around in europe to afford the roaming prices. And the swisscom price is really nice if you compare it to the italian price..
And, no, unlocking it illegally is not an option for me.
 
What are the alternatives? I need an unlocked version because I travel too much around in europe to afford the roaming prices. And the swisscom price is really nice if you compare it to the italian price..
And, no, unlocking it illegally is not an option for me.

How would you unlock it illegally???
 
I would like to ask some from Switzerland, if it is possible they buy the phone and send it to another European country, or do they have to use the "Liberty Uno" plan?
You don't have to use anything with Liberty Uno. You could just buy the phone and take the SIM out if you wanted to. You could most likely take it elsewhere to be used as an unlocked phone on another carrier, assuming that 2.0 will be unlockable.
 
Dude, it IS NOT illegal...

At first it depends on the country. At second it at least is a grey zone.
And the most important thing for me personally is that depending on the way it is removed, you are jeopardizing your warranty.
Especially the last point is something that I strongly dislike.
 
You need to be a permanent resident in Switzerland in order to buy prepaid packages (need to show them your Swiss ID or your residency card when buying and all SIM-cards need to be registered with the authorities - direct backlash from 9-11 where the terrorists used Swisscom prepaid cards to communicate).

Swisscom offers an unlocked version of the iPhone at 999 CHF (about 980 USD) for the 8gb version and 1199 CH (1150 USD) for the 16gb version.

Not so cheap, if you ask me.

kis
 
You need to be a permanent resident in Switzerland in order to buy prepaid packages (need to show them your Swiss ID or your residency card when buying and all SIM-cards need to be registered with the authorities - direct backlash from 9-11 where the terrorists used Swisscom prepaid cards to communicate).

I think that this information is incorrect. There are many reports on people that claim to have talked to the hotline. And the response usually is, yes you need to show your ID card, but it can be any nationality.
There are also reports that you only need to show your ID card once you activate your SIM card, which must not be the same point in time as the moment you buy the phone. However I don't think that this will work on the iPhone.
EDIT: I actually bought a pre-paid card last summer in Switzerland without being permanent resident.
 
I think that this information is incorrect. There are many reports on people that claim to have talked to the hotline. And the response usually is, yes you need to show your ID card, but it can be any nationality.

I can assure you, you need to live in Switzerland to legally buy any SIM-card.
I suppose not all shops will enforce the policy but it's the law.

kis
 
At first it depends on the country. At second it at least is a grey zone.
And the most important thing for me personally is that depending on the way it is removed, you are jeopardizing your warranty.
Especially the last point is something that I strongly dislike.

Oh, so which country is it illegal in?
 
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