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Will Apple ever release a 13' MacBook Pro 3.0ghz or higher?

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MugenRacing

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I am currently waiting for the MacBook Pro 13' series to obtain 3.0ghz or higher. I do not want to settle for the 2.53ghz processor that they have currently in their model. I was hoping that they would build a 3.0ghz Quad Core processor such as the QX9600 or better. I would really like to see a 3ghz + Quad core processor and have the ability to last 7-8 hours or more. :D

Please reply and give me an insight if this will be possible any time soon. I am hoping if they do not reach quad core yet, I will wait for the 3ghz core 2 duo, but really anticipating the quad core..
 
I will be doing webpage design, programming, photo editing, audio compression,etc. Basically I will be multi-tasking and I do not want a computer that cant keep up to speed. I currently have a desktop that is in need of updating.
 
it a notebook, made for being portable, I doubt it will get some power hungry processor, seeing it made for on the road type of use. Where power tends to be in the Mac Pro, and live of a wall socket.

What limits notebooks really is the power drain, there might be high end PC notebooks, but they have really poor battery life. The extra speed even though useful, is not that much quicker overall, on the day to day uses, would suggest more memory if you want better performance. Most Laptops also use slower drives for the same reasons. The 2.53 for what you want will do all what you ask and then some, just add more memory, that way programs don't need to swap to virtual memory as much, making the system much quicker.
 
Hmm, I do all the same things...and my 2.4GHz Macbook is perfect for the job. Honestly, RAM is what you are looking for, not pure CPU power for multitasking.

Well back to your original question, I doubt it will ever happen, considering the heat and that the 13" only has 1 fan.
 
give it two years and check back. either it will be a quad core, or it will have a faster clock speed
 
Get a 15" or deal with the smaller processor. The 13" will eventually achieve 3GHz+ but not anytime soon. Also, multitasking has more to do with RAM than the processor, so just get 8GB of RAM.
 
There's nothing really preventing Apple from doing it.

Not that they ever will. All the more reason to upsell to a more expensive model like many other hardware manufacturers.
 
Yeah, I think the OP doesn't understand computers very well. For his needs it's the amount ram and HDD/SSD transfer rates that he should be more focused on, not raw CPU speed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 2.53Ghz processor in the 13" in terms of raw processing power.
 
I can do all the things you talk of on 2.4, 2GB RAM (Sept 08 model) without any problems. I personally dont think i will need to upgrade this machine for at least another year, and i will still be using it for multi track protools sessions and photoshop. So i wouldnt sweat it with the speed of the machines at the mo. Especially seeing as the FSB speed is faster now, than in the previous models. :)
 
I understand. I would really appreciated it if they just threw in a 3ghz processor dual core or quad, settling at the peak of 3.0ghz is enough for me. I would definitely get 8gb of RAM for my next MBP, but RICK3000, in your signature, you wrote Shipping soon MBP 3.06ghz? Is that coming out soon? I may wait until the end of this year to get the new MBP if its going to be 3.0ghz+ :p
 
Another thing for me, I hate this about myself, but ever since they had Pentium 4 and Dual Core processors, I have always aimed to get at least 3.0ghz+, I guess it was because my first computer was the 3.0ghz P4 that I purchase myself. So in my mind, I would be looking for a faster 3.0ghz computer. I am hoping to get a MBP 13' 3.0ghz when they start having them available.
 
MugenRacing said:
Another thing for me, I hate this about myself, but ever since they had Pentium 4 and Dual Core processors, I have always aimed to get at least 3.0ghz+, I guess it was because my first computer was the 3.0ghz P4 that I purchase myself. So in my mind, I would be looking for a faster 3.0ghz computer. I am hoping to get a MBP 13' 3.0ghz when they start having them available.
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Easier to pull off on a desktop and with NetBurst than on a mobile Core 2.

In before everyone else's mentions of IPC, definitions clock speed, and core scaling.
 
So, you want a computer that can keep up with heavy multitasking and such, but you've limited your choice to a 13" MBP? That doesn't make a lot of sense. The 13" MBP is designed to be super-portable while being reasonably powerful, which it is, but it has its limits. Is 2.53GHz not enough for a small laptop?

If Apple wanted to put a Core 2 Quad in a laptop, they would have done it already. I don't expect to see quad-core anything in an Apple laptop until the mobile Nehalem cores ship. And even then, I doubt they'd be slapping those chips into 13" MBPs right away. If I were to guess, they'd go into high-end 15" and 17" models first. Plus, with the current battery technology, you can kiss 7-8 hour battery life goodbye with a quad-core.
 
I found it on Apple.com for the 15' MBP that has a option for 3.06ghz processor which is great! but I am looking for something smaller like a 13'. I will have awhile until this is available, if not, ill settle for the 15' with the 3.06ghz cpu. I am sure of it though that the time I settle to purchase a new MBP, either they will have what I am looking for, or the price will slash or newer faster CPU will be available. Most likely the 13' will have 2.6 or 2.8 like the 15 MBP later in the years. Maybe next year they will have 3.06ghz MBP 13'

Seeing how the design goes for mac, maybe this will come true.
 
MugenRacing said:
I understand. I would really appreciated it if they just threw in a 3ghz processor dual core or quad, settling at the peak of 3.0ghz is enough for me. I would definitely get 8gb of RAM for my next MBP, but RICK3000, in your signature, you wrote Shipping soon MBP 3.06ghz? Is that coming out soon? I may wait until the end of this year to get the new MBP if its going to be 3.0ghz+ :p
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the 15" and 17" have the option to to upgrade from 2.8 to 3.06.

I can see in the future more cores, not so much clock speed, and with snow leopards being designed for multi-core and to use them more efficiently. slow speeds = less heat and power, so adding more cores to speed it up seems to be the way to go. quad cores will come, just a matter of time, I can see the iMac going quad next release, and pro going 16 cores chips.

Snow leopard grand central will allow all developers to build multi-core applications, this is big.
 
True about multi-tasking, but I am looking for portability. If anything I will settle for the 15' MBP. I had a 17' MBP and it was really a problem for traveling.
 
munkees said:
the 15" and 17" have the option to to upgrade from 2.8 to 3.06.

I can see in the future more cores, not so much clock speed, and with snow leopards being designed for multi-core and to use them more efficiently. slow speeds = less heat and power, so adding more cores to speed it up seems to be the way to go. quad cores will come, just a matter of time, I can see the iMac going quad next release, and pro going 16 cores chips.

Snow leopard grand central will allow all developers to build multi-core applications, this is big.
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That sounds good. I cant wait for the release of Snow Leopard. When is the release date? I am sure if I wait till then, they should have new processors out. :D Hopefully with 3.06ghz and 7-8 hours battery life WOULD be AWESOME. From what other users say, it wouldnt be likely anytime soon, I am guessing apple wants their laptops to have at least 7hours and with a higher cpu, it would definitely drain the battery from their specifications..
 
I found it on Apple.com for the 15' MBP that has a option for 3.06ghz processor which is great! but I am looking for something smaller like a 13'. I will have awhile until this is available, if not, ill settle for the 15' with the 3.06ghz cpu. I am sure of it though that the time I settle to purchase a new MBP, either they will have what I am looking for, or the price will slash or newer faster CPU will be available. Most likely the 13' will have 2.6 or 2.8 like the 15 MBP later in the years. Maybe next year they will have 3.06ghz MBP 13'

Seeing how the design goes for mac, maybe this will come true.
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Are you really that fixated on having a 3GHz processor? Core 2 processors are significantly faster than P4 core processors of the past, even at lower clock speeds. These days, architecture (as in more efficient use of clock cycles) is king.

Using this logic, by the time a 3.06GHz (or whatever) 13" MBP ships, the 15/17" models will have 3.4GHz processors you'll undoubtedly want on the 13" MBP. Buy a computer that suits your current needs and be done with it. If you're willing to wait several months for the MBP line to refresh again, you obviously don't need a new computer that bad.
 
For what you mentioned, you could easily do with 2.0ghz core 2 duo as long as it has at least a 3 mb L2 cache.

If you really want the best performance get a SSD.

I got one for testing and put it on my 9 year old desktop (intel P4 1.5ghz, 256mb ram, 64mb graphics card...) and it out performs ANYTHING to date as long as it doesn't have a SSD of course :D

Why spend 300-500 bucks on a better processor when you can have a ssd that would beat a $2000 processor upgrade.

Its like... why put a 3000HP engine (drag) into a civic when you don't need it...
 
CaptainChunk said:
Are you really that fixated on having a 3GHz processor? Core 2 processors are significantly faster than P4 core processors of the past, even at lower clock speeds. These days, architecture (as in more efficient use of clock cycles) is king.

Using this logic, by the time a 3.06GHz (or whatever) 13" MBP ships, the 15/17" models will have 3.4GHz processors you'll undoubtedly want on the 13" MBP. Buy a computer that suits your current needs and be done with it. If you're willing to wait several months for the MBP line to refresh again, you obviously don't need a new computer that bad.
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Wow, that really is true, when the 13' MBP reaches 3.06ghz, the 15' and 17' MBP line will be at 3.4ghz and higher.. And when that happens, my thirst for computing power will drive me to get the higher processor speed again.. Im pretty sure that I will crave for a 4ghz cpu if that happens.. LOL. :D

I guess I'll get the 15' MBP 3.06ghz. Hmmm... will the price drop anytime soon? Its $2,599 w/o tax or shipping.. OUCH :eek:
 
And for the record, the two machines in my signature get used frequently for pro-level work (video editing, compositing, rendering). While they're not quite the bleeding edge machines they once were, they're fast enough for me.

I'm not ready to invest thousands of dollars replacing these machines for what what would only be marginal speed increases. That isn't logical to me.
 
Some Guy 555 said:
For what you mentioned, you could easily do with 2.0ghz core 2 duo as long as it has at least a 3 mb L2 cache.

If you really want the best performance get a SSD.

I got one for testing and put it on my 9 year old desktop (intel P4 1.5ghz, 256mb ram, 64mb graphics card...) and it out performs ANYTHING to date as long as it doesn't have a SSD of course :D

Why spend 300-500 bucks on a better processor when you can have a ssd that would beat a $2000 processor upgrade.

Its like... why put a 3000HP engine (drag) into a civic when you don't need it...
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For sure. I had a 2.0 uMB that did all that. I went to a 2.66 and really, aside from audio work being a little faster, there's no real difference. The 2.53 is plenty for what most needs are. With the current curve in tech, end users are barely really using what they have except for the true power users. If anything, the 13" really just needs discrete video.
 
Some Guy 555 said:
For what you mentioned, you could easily do with 2.0ghz core 2 duo as long as it has at least a 3 mb L2 cache.

If you really want the best performance get a SSD.

I got one for testing and put it on my 9 year old desktop (intel P4 1.5ghz, 256mb ram, 64mb graphics card...) and it out performs ANYTHING to date as long as it doesn't have a SSD of course :D

Why spend 300-500 bucks on a better processor when you can have a ssd that would beat a $2000 processor upgrade.

Its like... why put a 3000HP engine (drag) into a civic when you don't need it...
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Isnt it true that SSD hard drive wont last long than a normal SATA HD that has moving mechanical parts inside? I read online or in a pc magazine that says although SSD outperforms a mechanical HD, it has low or lesser rewrite times before it will crash. Correct me if i am wrong.. :confused:
 
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