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I believe that the 17" drive is thicker than the one used in the 15" drive...so we still have to wait for thinner drives. The reason they can use on in the 17" and not the 15" is because the width and depth of the case allows the drive to clear the trackpad and keyboard, and it can use the entire vertical space of the case.
 
thats why the 17" was cheaper than the 15" at first because the 4x 9.5mm drive is very very expensive.
 
generik said:
Bugger!

If not for the butt ugly huge casing the 17" is actually a bargain then!
Yep.

I heard the 17 inchers don't have a big buzzing problem, either.

But don't quote me on that. ;)
 
thegreatluke said:
Yep.

I heard the 17 inchers don't have a big buzzing problem, either.

But don't quote me on that. ;)

Perhaps the extra room inside is good for better ventillation.
 
Froogle tells me slim 9.5mm drives are about $200 per, which means more like $150 after Apple's haggling abilities.
 
It seemed stupid of apple to not at least keep their superdrives the same speed with the PB to MBP transition...personally, I don't see how they can justify charging 2 grand+ for a notebook that has a slower drive than its predecessor. (This comment was not made to spark a fury over why intel macs are better than ppc macs etc., it is just a thought;) )
 
freestyleguy128 said:
When do you think apple will get 8x superdrives thin enough to fit in the macbook pro's?

They're thin enough already. The problem is they're too wide for the 15" MBP's case. Honestly, I imagine Apple *could* fit one in... but I don't think they will. They're looking for some product differentiation between the 17" and the 15" (other than screen real estate).
 
freestyleguy128 said:
It seemed stupid of apple to not at least keep their superdrives the same speed with the PB to MBP transition...personally, I don't see how they can justify charging 2 grand+ for a notebook that has a slower drive than its predecessor. (This comment was not made to spark a fury over why intel macs are better than ppc macs etc., it is just a thought;) )

Not doing the impossible is stupid?
 
freestyleguy128 said:
It seemed stupid of apple to not at least keep their superdrives the same speed with the PB to MBP transition...personally, I don't see how they can justify charging 2 grand+ for a notebook that has a slower drive than its predecessor. (This comment was not made to spark a fury over why intel macs are better than ppc macs etc., it is just a thought;) )

For me, I don't mind if the drive is a little slower. To me, the MacBook Pro drive is plenty fast, and having an 8x drive would only shave off a minute or so of burn time. I think most people can find something to do for 1-5 minutes.
 
vv-tim said:
They're thin enough already. The problem is they're too wide for the 15" MBP's case. Honestly, I imagine Apple *could* fit one in... but I don't think they will. They're looking for some product differentiation between the 17" and the 15" (other than screen real estate).

That is actually very lame. So supposing I want a somewhat portable powerhouse, because of someone's idea in Apple I can't? What if I am willing to pay for the BTO options as well? I still can't?

At the end of the day, what makes the decision of someone in Apple so much more special than the requirements of the paying customer?
 
For as often as I burn DVD's, I can handle a 4x dvd burner. Actually if I ever have to burn a DVD I just move the files to my iMac and burn them on the 8x.
 
mmmcheese said:
Not doing the impossible is stupid?
I don't mean with the previous MBPs...I mean with the next merom refresh...From what I understand, there are already 8x superdrives that are thin enough to implement on the next wave of MBPs. I am not calling apple stupid for not putting an impossible drive into their notebooks, I am saying that it is stupid to charge the same amount or more money for a notebook with a very vital feature not having the same speed as its predecessor. Fair enough?
 
they were available in january, but in such limited quantity that apple could nto feasibly use them or even offer them as a bto option due to being completely unable to fufill demand or being slagged off due to the premium the drives fetch.
 
Hector said:
they were available in january, but in such limited quantity that apple could nto feasibly use them or even offer them as a bto option due to being completely unable to fufill demand or being slagged off due to the premium the drives fetch.
You're in London...I guess you can't buy an airport extreme anymore...How do you get wireless over there?
 
i have two base stations, an airport express and a linksys router, one is set to B only the other is set to G, so my ibook or any guests laptop does not slow the whole network down if it's a lone B node, airport is just apples name for 802.11a/b/g it's compatible with any wireless router ect.
 
Hector said:
i have two base stations, an airport express and a linksys router, one is set to B only the other is set to G, so my ibook or any guests laptop does not slow the whole network down if it's a lone B node, airport is just apples name for 802.11a/b/g it's compatible with any wireless router ect.
No...isn't europe implementing the whole enviornmental conservation thingy where they won't let you buy certain apple products like the airport extreme and iSight?
 
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