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9.7" iPad Pro Touch ID Generation

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I am just now able to play around with my new Pro, but I have one question. Apple's website only mentions "Touch ID" and doesn't say generation 1 or 2 like with the iPhones.

Has anyone else noticed a speed bump in the Pro's Touch ID speed compared to the iPhone 6's and Air 2's sensor? The Pro seems much faster than either the iPhone 6 or Air 2 even when the fingers are newly registered.
 
It seems pretty fast to me, faster than my Air 2, but who knows. Has iFixit done the tear down yet? I should check over there.
 
It's the first generation, sadly. Same with iPhone SE. Only the 6S/6S+ have the second gen Touch ID for now. I guess it will become the standard for all new devices next year. The reason I really prefer the second generation Touch ID is not the speed, it's the fact that it's more reliable. Sweaty fingers get registered too.

It does, however, feel a bit better on my iPad Pro 12.9" than on my old iPhone 6. There could be several reasons for that - if that is indeed the case (I could be imagining it). It could have something to do with the A9X but also the fact that I use the iPad when I'm inside the office or appartment and my fingers are probably cleaner than when using the iPhone outside.
 
aevan said:
It's the first generation
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Are we absolutely sure? I just unlocked my iPad to check something and the locks teen appeared for less than one second before the icons flew in. It's a staggering difference compared to the Air 2 or iPhone 6.
 
Traverse said:
Are we absolutely sure? I just unlocked my iPad to check something and the locks teen appeared for less than one second before the icons flew in. It's a staggering difference compared to the Air 2 or iPhone 6.
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Numerous reviews claimed it was first gen. And while it may seem faster than iPhone 6, what you're feeling is the speed of the unlock due to the faster chip, not the sensor. Try this - wake the iPad from sleep with the sleep button, then quickly tap the home button without pressing it. And I do mean quickly, the fastest you can. The iPhone 6S would unlock after this while the iPad won't.

It's not how fast it unlocks - it's the time your finger needs to be on the button to register. I can just tap the 6S and wait to unlock (the unlock always takes a bit longer, but my finger doesn't have to remain on the button).

As you can see, this (speed) is not a big deal. It's not the speed that makes the second generation Touch ID better - it's reliability. The second generation is much more resistant to sweat and any type of wetness on fingers meaning it is much more reliable. On my old 6 and on my iPad I often try to unlock, it doesn't recognize my thumb, then I have to wipe it off my shirt, and sometimes even wipe the home button - and try again. This rarely happens on the new Touch ID, and in my case it's a better experience. I hope it comes to all Apple devices soon.
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Kal-037 said:
I have not noticed any difference in speed with my iPhone 6s compared to my iPP. The iPP has Gen 1 though, (atleast that's what I heard) but it makes no difference for me. I doubt I'll die not being able to get into my iOS device 1 millisecond faster. ;) ;)


Kal.
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As I said above, it's not the speed, it's the consistency of the unlock.
 
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aevan said:
Numerous reviews claimed it was first gen. And while it may seem faster than iPhone 6, what you're feeling is the speed of the unlock due to the faster chip, not the sensor. Try this - wake the iPad from sleep with the sleep button, then quickly tap the home button without pressing it. And I do mean quickly, the fastest you can. The iPhone 6S would unlock after this while the iPad won't.

It's not how fast it unlocks - it's the time your finger needs to be on the button to register. I can just tap the 6S and wait to unlock (the unlock always takes a bit longer, but my finger doesn't have to remain on the button).

As you can see, this is not a big deal. It's not the speed that makes the second generation Touch ID better - it's reliability. The second generation is much more resistant to sweat and any type of wetness on fingers meaning it is much more reliable. On my old 6 and on my iPad I often try to unlock, it doesn't recognize my thumb, then I have to wipe it off my shirt, and sometimes even wipe the home button - and try again. This rarely happens on the new Touch ID, and in my case it's a better experience. I hope it comes to all Apple devices soon.
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As I said above, it's not the speed, it's the consistency of the unlock.
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I get a similar issue with both my 6+ and my iPad Pro. They recognise 3 of the fingers I've added perfectly, less than a second. But for whatever reason my right thumb just gives it endless problems. I always have to do several attempts with it.
 
Tbqh, I like the Touch ID delay found on Gen 1/iPhone 6. Sometimes I just want to quickly turn my phone on to check the time or quickly access the camera without going into the lock screen. If I accidentally use a Touch ID'd finger it immediately shoots into the home screen, which is super annoying.
 
I have a 9.7 IPP and a 6+. The iPad feels faster for sure, even though it's the same tech in the sensor. It might be because the iPad wakes almost instantly where my phone has a slight delay on being turned on. Either way, I don't think it's much of an issue not having the 2nd gen.
 
According to an Apple store employee, the 9.7-in iPad Pro uses the second-generation Touch ID.


One caveat: this employee also stated the 9.7-in iPad Pro was the only device to have an ambient light sensor and that the 9.7-in iPad Pro did not have 4 speakers like the 12-in iPad Pro.

Traverse said:
I am just now able to play around with my new Pro, but I have one question. Apple's website only mentions "Touch ID" and doesn't say generation 1 or 2 like with the iPhones.

Has anyone else noticed a speed bump in the Pro's Touch ID speed compared to the iPhone 6's and Air 2's sensor? The Pro seems much faster than either the iPhone 6 or Air 2 even when the fingers are newly registered.
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