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Yesterday, I walked into an Apple Store, after visiting 4 Best Buy stores in an unsuccessful attempt to replace the battery in my 13 Pro Max, and I had the privilege of forking over $450 for my trouble. Any news outlet could run this and say Apple overcharges for everything. But allow me to explain.

I purchased a refurbished iPhone 13 Pro Max a little over a year ago from Amazon. The configuration I wanted (512GB, Sierra Blue) wasn't available in Apple's refurbished store, so I went this route instead. When I received it, I ran a diagnostic on it (can't remember what app or program it was) and it checked out. All the hardware worked as it should.

I've noticed recently the phone is acting up, rebooting on it's own with around 70% charge, and when it comes back up, it shows 10% charge. Manually restarting it brings it back to what it should be. Battery health was at 83%, which makes me uncomfortable, and it definitely wasn't lasting as long as it used to (battery health was 99% when I received it) so I scheduled a service at Best Buy for a few days out (as I'm a Total member). I figured they'd get their ducks in a row, get a battery ready to go, I've never had trouble with the 4 phones I've taken in for service previously.

This time was different. They told me they don't have the battery to do the repair, and if I wanted to proceed, they'd order the battery but they'd also have to hold onto the phone. I'm not exactly sure why that is, so I declined. I then tried to call Best Buy to see if they could point me to a store that has a battery in stock. Apparently they couldn't help me, so I went to three other stores. The first two didn't have batteries, and the last one had a solitary Apple tech with one foot out the door, and would be gone for a week. So I scheduled an appointment at Apple for the next day.

I went into Apple, everything seemed to be going smooth, the Genius ran diagnostics and it flagged the display as having a problem. He said sometimes it could be due to a non-genuine screen, and sometimes there's no real issue, like the software freaks out. I authorize the repair, and they get to it. I grab a bite a few doors down and come back about an hour later. Then Apple hits me with the bad news.

The display broke during removal. I figure okay, they'll replace it no problem. But there was a problem. Not only was the display broken, it was a third-party part. Many thoughts then ran through my head, like it all makes sense. The money I saved buying refurbished was probably thanks to the previous owner breaking the screen, which happens a lot in iPhoneland. They probably ditched the phone due to the most likely higher cost of the screen replacement at that time, so the repair shop probably threw in whatever screen they could get their hands on, duped the phone into believing it's a genuine part, and sold it to me.

$89 for the battery, $329 for the screen. That's an expensive lesson to learn, but I'll take it in stride. Just wanted the community to see what could happen if you try and cut corners, it could happen to anybody. But I've learned, either buy new or from Apple Refurbished if you can.
 
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I either buy older (but still new) phones through my carrier to save money or current phones through Apple. Past a certain point though, it no longer matters if my phones have third party parts. I'm not using my older phones as primary phones.
 
I've always found it simpler to just buy a new iPhone and trade in the old one. The hassle of dealing with private warranties and providing tech support to new users (especially those switching from Android) isn't something I have the time for. I experienced this firsthand when selling my iPhone 11.
 
Note to all iPhone buyers. Always buy new from  store or your phone’s service provider. Don’t trust refurbished.
Yeah normally I purchase my phones new, but I fell for that Sierra Blue color and the phones after my 13PM haven't piqued my interest 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
If you’re considering a refurbished phone, it should only be bought directly from Apple, as third-party components, especially screens and batteries, are far too common elsewhere.

Personally, I always purchase new devices, so the idea of using something second-hand feels quite unfamiliar. The only situation where I’d consider a used device is if I were looking for something outdated, like a phone from the 6S to XS range, which would be very inexpensive anyway.
 
If you’re considering a refurbished phone, it should only be bought directly from Apple, as third-party components, especially screens and batteries, are far too common elsewhere.

Personally, I always purchase new devices, so the idea of using something second-hand feels quite unfamiliar. The only situation where I’d consider a used device is if I were looking for something outdated, like a phone from the 6S to XS range, which would be very inexpensive anyway.
You can still get older devices new. It's usually just going through your own carrier for that though. For instance, I got my 11 Pro Max new from my carrier when the 12 series was the one Apple was selling.
 
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Yeah you learned that one good and proper.

Last time I had a battery replaced was in my youngest's iPhone 13. They did it for the fixed fee in the store. Display wouldn't recalibrate. They replaced the display. Still didn't work. They gave me a refurb 13 which looked better than the original one with 100% battery capacity instead. I was charged only for the battery. This was outside AppleCare as well.

Some of this I suspect is the CRA 2015 legislation here in the UK.
 
You can still get older devices new. It's usually just going through your own carrier for that though. For instance, I got my 11 Pro Max new from my carrier when the 12 series was the one Apple was selling.
That’s true. And you can also purchase new old stock. I picked up a brand new OGSE in 2022.
 
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Yesterday, I walked into an Apple Store, after visiting 4 Best Buy stores in an unsuccessful attempt to replace the battery in my 13 Pro Max, and I had the privilege of forking over $450 for my trouble. Any news outlet could run this and say Apple overcharges for everything. But allow me to explain.

I purchased a refurbished iPhone 13 Pro Max a little over a year ago from Amazon. The configuration ...

Red flags! Amazon is turning into the Wild West for tech devices. They're no help with problems either. I would never trust Amazon with such a purchase. I have had good luck with Swappa for used/secondary phones.
 
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Red flags! Amazon is turning into the Wild West for tech devices. They're no help with problems either. I would never trust Amazon with such a purchase. I have had good luck with Swappa for used/secondary phones.
I got my 6+ from eBay. AT&T model, advertised as unlocked (true) with a bad mic jack (also true). Pics showed a small circular dent in the bottom back (again true). But it was $75 in 2023 and replaced the Sprint 6+ I gave up to T-Mobile in 2015. I don't use the mic jack anyway, so that wasn't a concern for me.

I also got two 7th gen iPads off eBay in 2024 for my kids. Both work just fine. Around $100 each. Over 5 years ago, I also picked up a 3GS for about $20 on eBay. Everything on it works and it's not beat up.

I would not use eBay to buy anything new or recent, but for older stuff where it's not critical that it be exactly as advertised, it's a decent place.
 
Wouldn’t it of been cheaper to buy the refurbished model from Apple in exchange for your old phone?

I’ve had phones with problems where it was too internal issue and rather than fix parts they just swapped me for a refurbished phone of same spec I had.

You can’t have been far off that cost based on what you paid
 
Wouldn’t it of been cheaper to buy the refurbished model from Apple in exchange for your old phone?

I’ve had phones with problems where it was too internal issue and rather than fix parts they just swapped me for a refurbished phone of same spec I had.

You can’t have been far off that cost based on what you paid
OP did say this…

The configuration I wanted (512GB, Sierra Blue) wasn't available in Apple's refurbished store, so I went this route instead.
 
I went into Apple, everything seemed to be going smooth, the Genius ran diagnostics and it flagged the display as having a problem. He said sometimes it could be due to a non-genuine screen, and sometimes there's no real issue, like the software freaks out. I authorize the repair, and they get to it.
which country are you in?
So, the authorization included a "total" repair? and hence they didn't confirm with you the addl $329? I have no experience with Apple stores and how they handle it, but when I bring my car into the dealer's services and they find anything over the initial estimate, they call to confirm to move ahead, or not.
 
Yesterday, I walked into an Apple Store, after visiting 4 Best Buy stores in an unsuccessful attempt to replace the battery in my 13 Pro Max, and I had the privilege of forking over $450 for my trouble. Any news outlet could run this and say Apple overcharges for everything. But allow me to explain.

I purchased a refurbished iPhone 13 Pro Max a little over a year ago from Amazon. The configuration I wanted (512GB, Sierra Blue) wasn't available in Apple's refurbished store, so I went this route instead. When I received it, I ran a diagnostic on it (can't remember what app or program it was) and it checked out. All the hardware worked as it should.

I've noticed recently the phone is acting up, rebooting on it's own with around 70% charge, and when it comes back up, it shows 10% charge. Manually restarting it brings it back to what it should be. Battery health was at 83%, which makes me uncomfortable, and it definitely wasn't lasting as long as it used to (battery health was 99% when I received it) so I scheduled a service at Best Buy for a few days out (as I'm a Total member). I figured they'd get their ducks in a row, get a battery ready to go, I've never had trouble with the 4 phones I've taken in for service previously.

This time was different. They told me they don't have the battery to do the repair, and if I wanted to proceed, they'd order the battery but they'd also have to hold onto the phone. I'm not exactly sure why that is, so I declined. I then tried to call Best Buy to see if they could point me to a store that has a battery in stock. Apparently they couldn't help me, so I went to three other stores. The first two didn't have batteries, and the last one had a solitary Apple tech with one foot out the door, and would be gone for a week. So I scheduled an appointment at Apple for the next day.

I went into Apple, everything seemed to be going smooth, the Genius ran diagnostics and it flagged the display as having a problem. He said sometimes it could be due to a non-genuine screen, and sometimes there's no real issue, like the software freaks out. I authorize the repair, and they get to it. I grab a bite a few doors down and come back about an hour later. Then Apple hits me with the bad news.

The display broke during removal. I figure okay, they'll replace it no problem. But there was a problem. Not only was the display broken, it was a third-party part. Many thoughts then ran through my head, like it all makes sense. The money I saved buying refurbished was probably thanks to the previous owner breaking the screen, which happens a lot in iPhoneland. They probably ditched the phone due to the most likely higher cost of the screen replacement at that time, so the repair shop probably threw in whatever screen they could get their hands on, duped the phone into believing it's a genuine part, and sold it to me.

$89 for the battery, $329 for the screen. That's an expensive lesson to learn, but I'll take it in stride. Just wanted the community to see what could happen if you try and cut corners, it could happen to anybody. But I've learned, either buy new or from Apple Refurbished if you can.

When I had Apple replace the battery in my 12 mini they broke the screen removing and provided me with a new one for free
 
When I had Apple replace the battery in my 12 mini they broke the screen removing and provided me with a new one for free

That is policy, yes. Though per the OP, he bought a user and frankensteined iPhone with third party parts. Unknowingly unfortunately.
 
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