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**Not super important, but just curious if anyone else has noticed some issues with the A13 chip.
I have found some while using the 11 Pro for 2+ weeks now. I haven’t just had usual glitches, but warnings of overheating when using messages or taking a couple photos. I dont notice any speed difference, but I notice it gets way hot really fast and it doesn’t run at all as smooth as my Xs (and while I was on iOS beta)... this is buggy, gets hot, and just overall has not much faster performance comparing them side by side (just IMO.)
I am 99% sure it’s not the particular iPhone I received as I had to do an exchange due to poor battery on my first one, and that is the one that got hot too and sent 2 overheating notifications.
It’s possible iOS 13 can get better and maybe alleviate the issues, but even then I miss my Xs Max because it rarely ever had any issues or got too hot.

*So yeah, anyone else notice anything?
 
Rule out software by factory reset, no restore, minimal app installed.

Not normal from sounds if it. A reputable app out there that reports hardware temps, cpu usage etc. That provides real numbers.
 
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Unless you're comparing two iPhones side by side both running the exact same version of iOS and both doing the exact same thing, there's no way to draw an accurate conclusion as to what's happening (hardware vs software). The recent iOS 13 variants trying to fix mistakes are all over the place as far as performance is concerned, so there's no way to know what the heck is going on when a previous iPhone (that's now gone) was running a different beta version of software.
 
My phone gets very hot also. Especially when charging or running a ram-heavy program. My device is also a replacement (which according to the Genius Bar is double QC’d) so it should be as perfect as it can be. Hmmm
 
No issues on my 11 Pro Max and I use some heavy programs like 3D 4Medical's Complete Anatomy...phone stays cool.

I would say for both of you with issues with heat/CPU, take it back and have it replaced again, definitely abnormal!

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**Not super important, but just curious if anyone else has noticed some issues with the A13 chip.
I have found some while using the 11 Pro for 2+ weeks now. I haven’t just had usual glitches, but warnings of overheating when using messages or taking a couple photos. I dont notice any speed difference, but I notice it gets way hot really fast and it doesn’t run at all as smooth as my Xs (and while I was on iOS beta)... this is buggy, gets hot, and just overall has not much faster performance comparing them side by side (just IMO.)
I am 99% sure it’s not the particular iPhone I received as I had to do an exchange due to poor battery on my first one, and that is the one that got hot too and sent 2 overheating notifications.
It’s possible iOS 13 can get better and maybe alleviate the issues, but even then I miss my Xs Max because it rarely ever had any issues or got too hot.

*So yeah, anyone else notice anything?
Either the device is faulty or you have something constantly running in the background (too many apps accessing iCloud Drive maybe?)

It sounds as if something is constantly syncing. Maybe also check your Location settings etc.... if all matches your XS.

On the flip side, Everything Apple Pro also mentioned heat on his 11 Pro units, there maybe some heat dissipation issues with the A13 and 11 Pro design.
 
Thanks for the input everyone, This phone replacement I have now just gets warm but is not like the one before where it alerts me about overheating the CPU. I have no big apps open, usually just text and Safari. I just find it interesting my Xs Max never had heating issues and ran buttery smooth on all iOS 13 betas. hmmm.
 
You have a defective phone, or perhaps a corrupt iCloud backup which you restored to your replacement phone. Of course, this is just a theory. But a normal iPhone 11 should not be running hot or overheating.
 
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Thanks for the input everyone, This phone replacement I have now just gets warm but is not like the one before where it alerts me about overheating the CPU. I have no big apps open, usually just text and Safari. I just find it interesting my Xs Max never had heating issues and ran buttery smooth on all iOS 13 betas. hmmm.

By the way OP, the A13 is a MUCH better SoC than the A12!

Per Apple Insider:

"Revealed on stage during Apple's iPhone 11 event, the A13 is claimed to have both the fastest CPU and fastest GPU of any smartphone or tablet, improving upon the power offered by the A12 used in the 2018 models. The 64-bit chip's CPU and GPU are said to be 20 percent faster than the variants in the A12, with a variety of elements allowing it to perform over one trillion operations per second, some relating to machine learning.


The A13 is made up of many sections, but the main three are the CPU, GPU, and the Neural Engine. The CPU consists of two performance cores and four efficiency cores, with each used depending on the workload. The GPU contains four Metal-optimized cores, while the Neural Engine contains eight more.

Also buried within the CPU region are a pair of "Machine Learning Accelerators," which are used to perform matrix multiplication, a calculation that is frequently used in machine learning. Apple says that the A13 will perform this calculation six times faster than the A12 Bionic. Its these accelerators that make the CPU reach the trillion-operations milestone.


Due to load balancing of the Apple-designed Machine Learning Controller, the machine learning models can be scheduled on the CPU, GPU, and Neural Engine depending on which would offer the best performance. The controller also does this while balancing the need to stay as efficient as possible, helping reduce the amount of power used.

As the controller takes all the decision-making out of where to process machine learning models at any time away from developers, this also simplifies the process for development.

At the same time as providing more processing power than the A12, the A13 Bionic also pushes to reduce the amount of energy it requires to perform the calculations in the first place. For this generation, it has helped Apple reach multiple extra hours of battery life in the iPhone 11 Pro, rather than typical improvements of an hour.

Part of the saving comes from changes in how it produces the chips in the first place. Taking advantage of chip partner TSMC's most recent commercial processes for creating 7-nanometer chips, described as an "advanced improved 2nd generation 7-nanometer transistor," Apple has tailored each transistor for performance and power.

At the same time as providing more processing power than the A12, the A13 Bionic also pushes to reduce the amount of energy it requires to perform the calculations in the first place. For this generation, it has helped Apple reach multiple extra hours of battery life in the iPhone 11 Pro, rather than typical improvements of an hour.

Part of the saving comes from changes in how it produces the chips in the first place. Taking advantage of chip partner TSMC's most recent commercial processes for creating 7-nanometer chips, described as an "advanced improved 2nd generation 7-nanometer transistor," Apple has tailored each transistor for performance and power.

At the same time, the work has led to Apple squeezing 8.5 billion transistors onto the A13, up from 6.9 billion used in the A12.

Aside from the transistors themselves, as well as being more selective over what is used to perform calculations, Apple has also worked on improving the architecture.


The use of hundreds of voltage domains on the chip gives Apple more control over what power is used, and when. By only turning on sections at a time when they will be used for processing, while leaving unused areas without power, this brings down how much energy is used in a calculation considerably to just what is required.

At an even smaller level, the use of hundreds of thousands of smaller domains allow for granular control over what gets power, ensuring only the smallest amount of logic in the chip is used for a process.

The work has resulted in vast power savings. The CPU's two performance cores consume 30% less power, the four efficiency cores save 40%, the four GPU cores also save 40%, and the eight Neural Engine cores are 15% more power efficient."

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Rule out software by factory reset, no restore, minimal app installed.

Not normal from sounds if it. A reputable app out there that reports hardware temps, cpu usage etc. That provides real numbers.
Yup. Reset like this. If it still happens take it to Apple.
 
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Just wait for next years A14 5nm processor - the battery gains alone will be incredible and blow this years improvements out of the water.
 
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**Not super important, but just curious if anyone else has noticed some issues with the A13 chip.
I have found some while using the 11 Pro for 2+ weeks now. I haven’t just had usual glitches, but warnings of overheating when using messages or taking a couple photos. I dont notice any speed difference, but I notice it gets way hot really fast and it doesn’t run at all as smooth as my Xs (and while I was on iOS beta)... this is buggy, gets hot, and just overall has not much faster performance comparing them side by side (just IMO.)
I am 99% sure it’s not the particular iPhone I received as I had to do an exchange due to poor battery on my first one, and that is the one that got hot too and sent 2 overheating notifications.
It’s possible iOS 13 can get better and maybe alleviate the issues, but even then I miss my Xs Max because it rarely ever had any issues or got too hot.

*So yeah, anyone else notice anything?
Hmm I am already on my second 11Pro and waiting for number three (don't ask why..) but I never had any warnings up until now.
 
Haven't been terribly impressed with A13 from what I've seen.

Yeah it’s more an incremental step as it’s still built on 7nm process like the A12. I cannot wait for 2020 which will bring 5nm chips and the next major leap in raw power, power efficiency and heat management.

If the iPhone 12 Pro Max comes with the same battery as the 11 Pro Max but with a 5nm A14 Bionic, it will be amazing!
 
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No overheating issues here! Been running my 11 Pro Max since launch day. My phone has never even felt more than slightly kinda warm?
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Yeah it’s more an incremental step as it’s still built on 7nm process like the A12. I cannot wait for 2020 which will bring 5nm chips and the next major leap in raw power, power efficiency and heat management.

If the iPhone 12 Pro Max comes with the same battery as the 11 Pro Max but with a 5nm A14 Bionic, it will be amazing!

The A11 to A12 performance Improvement is smaller than the larger gap from A12 to A13.
 
For me it is the opposite. I hated my XS because it got hot so easily. My 11 Pro runs cooler so far. Although, I’m on the 13.2 Beta if that makes a difference.

I am 13.2 as well, and my 11 Pro Max runs cool as can be, even while in super intensive programs on the CPU/GPU like (as I mentioned above) 3D 4Medical Complete Anatomy.

The OP clearly has something wrong with his iPhone, so he needs to take it back and get a replacement, and the same with some of the other people in this thread who have the same issue. It is as easy it that!

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