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Jordan246

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What A5 devices do you think ios9 is going to support my guess is that even though the ipad 2 runs ios8 it runs it ok for an a5 device. I also think the ipad 3 iPod touch 5th gen and iPad mini first gen would run ios 9 what do you guys think
 
I'll put money on the following

iPad mini 2 & 3
iPad 4, air & air 2
iPhone 5, 5s, 6 & 6plus

All existing models including the iPod touch will be dropped.
 
I agree it's too early to tell, I don't think they're going to sell A5 devices up to the announcement of iOS 9 and not update them, that's unlikely for the iPod Touch at least, unless a 6th gen comes out.

Anyway there are too many variables that can change to tell yet.
 
I'll put money on the following

iPad mini 2 & 3
iPad 4, air & air 2
iPhone 5, 5s, 6 & 6plus

All existing models including the iPod touch will be dropped.

This move would make some of my family members (with a 4S/iPad 2) very unhappy. But looking at iOS 8, it is reasonable to finally kill this low performance devices and get some upgrades. But i guess Apple will support them for one more year until they are finally dropped. I think the iPad 2 has some kind of long term educational support. The iPod touch, iPad mini and the ATV3 are still being sold. It would be to hard to drop them. And if they have to support these devices, it makes no sense to drop other A5 devices like the iPad 3/iPhone 4S.
 
iOS 9, should be optimization, optimization, and hand code assembler optimization after optimizing. Google did it with their Project Butter to the point where my 2012 Nexus 7 on KitKat, despite being essentially identical in hardware specs, runs rings around my iPhone 5, despite having a much larger software feature set.

If anything, iOS 9 ought to run better and faster with far less RAM requirements than iOS 8 on A5 devices.

The thing is, I suspect Apple no longer has the programming talent. Something happened.

They seem to be trying to get some talent back, like when they bought the app and hired the guy that assembly coded a camera that blew Apple's camera away.
 
iOS 9, should be optimization, optimization, and hand code assembler optimization after optimizing. Google did it with their Project Butter to the point where my 2012 Nexus 7 on KitKat, despite being essentially identical in hardware specs, runs rings around my iPhone 5, despite having a much larger software feature set.

If anything, iOS 9 ought to run better and faster with far less RAM requirements than iOS 8 on A5 devices.

The thing is, I suspect Apple no longer has the programming talent. Something happened.

They seem to be trying to get some talent back, like when they bought the app and hired the guy that assembly coded a camera that blew Apple's camera away.

I feel the complete opposite, the i5 still feels snappier and more responsive then my N7 2013 on Lollipop 5.0.1

And the i5 doesnt have Apple A5, it has a Apple A6
 
iOS 9, should be optimization, optimization, and hand code assembler optimization after optimizing. Google did it with their Project Butter to the point where my 2012 Nexus 7 on KitKat, despite being essentially identical in hardware specs, runs rings around my iPhone 5, despite having a much larger software feature set.

If anything, iOS 9 ought to run better and faster with far less RAM requirements than iOS 8 on A5 devices.

The thing is, I suspect Apple no longer has the programming talent. Something happened.

They seem to be trying to get some talent back, like when they bought the app and hired the guy that assembly coded a camera that blew Apple's camera away.

I highly, highly doubt that, especially given that the 2013 version has never come anywhere near close to performing as well as my iPhone 5 has/does.
 
I feel the complete opposite, the i5 still feels snappier and more responsive then my N7 2013 on Lollipop 5.0.1

And the i5 doesnt have Apple A5, it has a Apple A6

Thanks for the correction on the i5. Try 5.02 which fixes your N7 issue.
 
I thought 5.0.2 was for the 2012 Nexus 7 only? I have the 2013 version

Oh my bad we should have clarified that! Yeah my 2012 Nexus 7 seems to be getting a bit better support at the moment. It seems you'll have to wait a bit I guess.

Maybe both companies need to set back a while and quit feature cramming and get back to bug quashing.
 
A5 support is done after ios 8. Performance is subpar by any standard. Yes it still works but the user experience is poor at best.

Apps that have barely changed since iOS 4 are slow loading. Like the phone app, I'll occasionally call the wrong people because recent calls will refresh under my thumb. I shouldn't be able to operate my hand faster then the phone can operate something as simple as the phone app.
 
As everyone above, I'm super confident A5 devices will not see iOS 9.
 
Just trying to do anything basic on my iPod touch 5G on 8.1.2 is pretty slow and lag-filled. If Apple does continue to sell/support A5 devices with iOS 9, it will be a very bad move, IMO.
 
After trying 8.2 betas I think they are no going to fix ios8 on 2015, so ios9 will be the fix itself and maybe could be installed on a5 devices

There's no reason ios8 to be slower than 7, and ios9 will be very similar to ios8, no room and no need for new features, just for improvements
 
After trying 8.2 betas I think they are no going to fix ios8 on 2015, so ios9 will be the fix itself and maybe could be installed on a5 devices

There's no reason ios8 to be slower than 7, and ios9 will be very similar to ios8, no room and no need for new features, just for improvements

I agree with you that iOS 8.2 and 8.3 will definitely improve performance for all devices.

However, Apple may discontinue all A5 devices in the spring (iPod touch 5 and iPad mini). Therefore Apple won't be forced to support A5 devices with iOS 9.

But I do think, as you do, that iOS 9 will be an improvement and optimization update, without introducing as many features, and thus will be similar to iOS 8 and 7 in performance.

And Apple wants to keep as many devices as possible on up-to-date operating systems because of monetization reasons such as a new Beats/iTunes radio subscription feature, third party app support, etc.

So for those two reasons, I do think Apple will support A5 devices with iOS 9, even though Apple isn't forced to.
 
Simply just give A5 devices a bit more watered down iOS 9 version if they reallly wanted too..but yeah, quite sure A5 devices do not see iOS 9 though.
 
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