After a decade of icloud Phone to Phone transfers ...

[eScenCe]

.. I want to start clean on Phone Settings on the new 17 Pro Max coming in a couple of days.


What would be the smartest way to:

Keep & transfer everything in icloud (eSIM, Contacts, Photos, iCloud Storage, App Content, f.e. Auths, Banking, Fitness, Ford Pass, ...)
but NO Phone Settings.

Transfer complete iPhone on first boot and than use "Reset Settings" toggle?
Any way to "set up as new iphone but use [this backup] for data" in the first starting process?
Or any smarter way that only transfer data but no settings in before?

I feel, some of my hickups and "minor" problems resulting in using a phone backup, that is literally 13 years old [...].
I want to make sure, that this is not an issue anymore. No better time for it than now, right?

Thanks.

 

[adrianlondon]

It doesn't matter what you do, most banking apps will freak out and demand you re-authenticate.

As many still use SMS for 2FA, also ensure either your new or old phone can receive them. For Wallet, I think it has to be the new phone as it expects the codes to be authenticated automatically rather than you getting them on the old phone and typing them in.

For my new phone (first time in 6 years!) I did all the banking and wallet stuff after everything else was done.

 

[Ruggy]

Don't transfer
Back everything up then set up a new phone and download everything from the cloud.
Definitely the best way to do it.
Don't transfer the old phone onto the new one - or whatever they call it. No.

 

[eScenCe]

Can you explain further?

I set up the 17 Pro as a new phone and log in with apple ID; but don't restore from cloud?
Than, when the iphone is fully booted and useable, I do what?

Holding both phones together and transfer via cloud is actually the same as setting up a new phone and chose "restore from cloud", so I am kinda unsure what steps I have to take for your suggestion.

Again, the main point is: I want the cloud stuff (Data, Contacts, eSIM...) but I don't want any (iOS) phone settings.
Those changed so often in more than 10 years, that I believe many minor quirks occuring on my 14PM coming from this.

Edit: I doubled checked. It's my Backup since iPhone 5 .. .so this backup is a whooping 14 years and 14 iOS version - steps old .. no wonder it makes ... weird stuff.

 

[elvisimprsntr]

Apple has done an amazing job at the migration process. I always do phone to phone migration because there are a couple of apps I use which are no longer available in the App Store and the DJI app cache does not backup to iCloud.

I was running 26.1b1 on my old phone and the new phone prompted me to enroll the new phone in the developer beta program and automatically installed 26.1b1 and migrated everything.

 

[papbot]

I would echo what @elvisimprsntr said. I’ve only used the wireless phone to phone transfer method since I discovered it was much faster for me than an iCloud restore. I was up to a useable phone in about 40 minutes this time, but it’s been even faster before.

 

[kitKAC]

no wonder it makes ... weird stuff.

Sorry, like what? What issues are having with your current iPhone that you think are being caused by old settings?

 

[Pandyone]

I set up the 17 Pro as a new phone and log in with apple ID; but don't restore from cloud?
Than, when the iphone is fully booted and useable, I do what?

After that, you download every app manually. Most apps have iCloud information/data that is going to the apps automatically, like contacts and so on.
You will need to set up eSIM and banking apps again.

 

[Cobold]

Don't transfer
Back everything up then set up a new phone and download everything from the cloud.
Definitely the best way to do it.
Don't transfer the old phone onto the new one - or whatever they call it. No.

And that’s because?
I‘ve been doing the iPhone-to-iPhone transfer since Apple introduced it back in the days of iOS 11. And as an annual upgrader, I‘ve done it with every single iPhone ever since and so has my wife as a bi-annual upgrader.
Even within my family, where my „old“ iPhones usually go, I always did the iPhone-to-iPhone transfer.

Never ever had a single issue with it, it’s the most convenient way to switch to a new iPhone for me.
I‘ll do it again with my 16 PM to my new 17 PM when it arrives mid October.

 

[LordArchie]

I did the iCloud restore...

Question: Anyone doing a USB-C to USB-C connection to upgrade from line a 16PM to a 17PM?

Curious how that goes, need to upgrade my wife to a 17Pro in a couple weeks

 

[eScenCe]

After that, you download every app manually. Most apps have iCloud information/data that is going to the apps automatically, like contacts and so on.
You will need to set up eSIM and banking apps again.

Resetting eSIM is no option.
I need to keep this.


Still hoping for someone who can confirm or deny the possibilty of NOT importing Phone Settings.

So far the only valid(?) way is complete backup, import, than reset all settings.

Hope anyone have another idea without that "double - do".