I have a 4th-gen and 5th-gen apple watch and they charge just fine with the included pucks. However, I want to migrate away from all of the cables since the iphones we have are wireless-charging compatible as well. The thing is, I've tossed my watch on a couple of wireless charging pads but it never worked. Come to find out that Apple decided to be courageous and not use the standard Qi charging protocol for the watch. I see a lot of combo stands on Amazon (i.e. a pad plus a watch holder) that charge both, but I would really like to hear some real-world feedback from anyone who charges their iphone and watch on the same pad (or uses one of those stand chargers). Anybody have some positive or negative feedback on this? Thanks in advance!