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Any M1 MacBook Pro users upgrading to 14inch or 16inch new MacBook Pro’s?
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Pls tell me how to upgrade to nonexisting hardware?
When it’s out in the coming months, should be fairly obvious.
Sry i dont know, i dont spend hours and hours watching youtube videos and forums reading about predictions of predictions 
I’m on an M1 13” MBP because I had to buy one since I’m returning back to an office environment. i sold my 16” Core i9 w/ 32GB of RAM last April since I wasn’t using it and had a Core i9 iMac @ home with more storage, ram, GPU power and I relied on an iPad Pro for mobile computing but I held out to WWDC and now am living with an M1 MacBook Pro. It’s slow. Seriously. I don’t honestly know why people are losing their mind over the speed of these machines. My iMac is still faster (just as it was my 16”) and the only advance is probably battery life and the heat it puts out as the 16” i9 was insanely hot and always had a running fan but it was faster.
So I’m looking forward to a true pro notebook and will be selling the 13” as soon as one comes out.
So I’m looking forward to a true pro notebook and will be selling the 13” as soon as one comes out.
Depends on the price and features. I have a 2014 MBP that works pretty well, I have seen no reason to change it even with a M1. Apple like to be a disappointment pretty often.
We don't know the specs or look of it. Why make a decision now? This is a weird question.
On the assumption that you are referring to a replacement for the existing Intel based 16" MBPro and/or high end 13" Intel MBPro, the answer is no. I need to run VMs that can host my x86/X64 based Windows installations on my MBPro and Apple Silicon does not and will not support a VM running an x86/X64 Windows machine (they are expected to support the ARM version of Windows, but that is basically useless to me).
I suspect I may be abandoning Apple all together for professional work and moving back to a Windows based lap top saving my M1 MBA for personal emails etc. I love the M1 MBA but it useless to me as a machine for testing out Windows variants of my apps and running some of my professional applications. Since I can use the Adobe Photography suite (I am a keen photographer and that is one of my uses of my computers) on a Windows 10 (11?? next week) machine just as well as an Apple M1 machine, I really may not be able to justify the cost of the Apple machines any longer if I can no longer run a VM hosting an X64/X86 based Windows OS. Such is life.
I've had nothing but trouble with my MBP 16", 32GB Ram; 8GB Video Card; etc... it is a great machine and powerful. But I have keyboard issues (I will spare you the details but wierd). Apple has looked at it 3 times and refuses to acknowledge a problem. WiFi also keeps stalling 1x every 20-30 minutes. It doesn't drop a connection, it just stalls for about 30-60 seconds and then it is ok until it does it again. It is NOT my router. All my other devices (streaming TV/Windows Machine/2 iPhones/iPad etc..) work fine during these drop-outs. Apple's customer support during this pandemic has been absolutely abysmal for me. Other users on Apple Forums (and iFixit) have had similar issues. Have spent probably 30 hours on customer support phone calls. And like I said, have taken to Apple Store (when they were not shutdown) w/tons of tests run. The problem is, Apple will NOT patienty spend 20-30 minutes on my machine to see what I am talking about - even though I've used their products; repair and consult in my small community tech issues both WIN and OSX. So yes, I hope to get rid of this thing when a new MBP comes out that equals the power of this 16".
Very good point. And no, customer support will not get better in my opinion. Apple's customer support has really gone down over the past few years. I have had some issues w/a couple more products in addition to the MBP 16: an older MBP 15; and PowerBeats. Again, my isssues w/those devices were also on Apple Forums. It saddens me I even entertain the idea of going to a Windows Workflow (and I'm proficient w/Windows OS). But getting up in age a bit (stubborn ))); I do not want to learn a new workflow of media creation and management, mainly FCPX vs. Premiere, After Effects.Looks like general problem with customer support
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I'm toying with the idea of buying an M1 Pro. And no, the redesigned MacBook Pros do not interest me in the slightest. Why? Because every single redesign of the MacBook Pro, since the first MacBook Pro was a redesign of the PowerBook G4, has had reliability issues of some variety. You can chalk some of that up to bad GPUs and insufficient thermal envelopes for the CPUs and GPUs, but not all of it. It's a much safer buy to wait until an Apple product's design has matured rather than be the first one to adopt. And, I don't know about you, but I don't make enough money to gamble on a brand new design.
Incidentally, past this next M1 Pro that I'm toying with the idea of buying, my investment in the Mac platform as my personal computing platform is going to wane substantially as the Intel Mac era draws to a close, meaning that the MacBook Air will be my Mac of choice from that point on.
When has a 13" MacBook Pro NOT been too underpowered to be considered a Pro machine?
For me its the opposite. The Intel Mac era was boring because what was so special about the hardware on the Mac, intel CPUs and AMD GPUs were available on PC. You could install macOS on a PC and it would have performed better than an Intel Mac. If Apple had stayed on Intel, I think many people would have switched over to PC because the hardware is the same.
Apple Sillicon Macs on the other hand are much more interesting and will get more so, more custom hardware and unique features that only Mx Macs will get makes me excited for the future of the Mac. We haven't even seen the higher-end MacBooks but if the MBA M1 is any indication(the MBA always had horrible performance but M1 changed that), the M1X Macs will be amazing.
Hardware is only special with things to run on it. Two of the three primary things I do on a Mac, namely gaming and virtualization, are kneecapped pretty hard at best and non-viable at worst on Apple Silicon. In both cases, those are not likely to improve as this transition completes. Hell, only half of my day to day apps that don't fall into those three categories (the third of which being video editing) are even Apple Silicon native.
So yeah; awesome to have such a more powerful Mac with nothing I care about to run on it! At least on an Intel Mac, even one where I CAN'T run 32-bit Intel apps, I always had the option of Windows or Linux via Boot Camp! Here, it's macOS or bust and, this time, I am able to run even fewer Mac apps than I could before!
I will be seriously considering it. I miss the 4 USB C ports on my 2020 MBP i7 that my M1 replaced. Also, I'd like a bit more graphics power to run certain games (Starcraft II, AOE II HD, etc.). But cost is going to be a big factor - not sure how much this M1 MBP will resell and I really don't want to pay $3k.
Give me 32GB of ram, 1-2TB HD, and 2x the graphics power of the M1? All for <$3k? Sure. I'll buy.
I really have no reason to upgrade. I can play AOE II HD / Starcraft II just fine. I'm never hitting ram limits, even when running W10Pro.
I am glad you are aware the Mac is still in the transition phrase. How many native apps or programs did the Mac have have in 2006 when it moved over from powerPC?
The future of the Mac is exciting, it have lack many things right now. The Windows On ARM platform is pitiful, macOS ARM has a solid foundation.
As for editing Davinci Resolve is native and Premiere is in beta. I am sure Adobe will be porting more its apps by the end of the transition.
As for virtualization, you can virtualisation every ARM OS but not x86 without a heavy power penally. Same goes for the intel Mac you can virtualise any x86 OS but on ARM OS without taking a performance hit.
VMware Fusion will also support ARM Linux VMs by the end of the transition.
As for gaming with xCloud set to launch, cloud gaming is the way to game on a Mac.
Macs have become like they used to be unique and thats what made them special to me.
They become what they used be prior to the Intel era, with unique hardware and software thats what made Macs different.
please take a look at this and see how many apps have been made to native to Apple Sillicon:
Universal and Native Apple Silicon Apps
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Its only been 8 months so far.
I was actually just thinking about this. We're eight months into the transition right now (assuming we start counting from the announcement of the first commercially available Macs with the new architecture). By eight months into the last transition (if we count Macworld 2006 as the same as same as the November 2020 event), I had MANY more apps and games as universal binaries and/or perfectly functional in the original Rosetta at that point. I think many more developers were interested in developing for the Mac on the x86 architecture than were on PowerPC and are on Apple Silicon.
Editing is not a fear. The Mac will always have apps for that. And for that particular function, the future IS bright. But in the Intel era, I was able to do WAY more with my Mac. Sure, the hardware is going to be great, and sure Apple is going to have the ability to optimize the software accordingly (although, I'd argue that, their relative quality control on these annual releases almost negates any benefit that they have in this regard). But again, all of that is meaningless when two thirds of what I would do on an Intel Mac is effectively nil on an Apple Silicon Mac.
ARM64 Linux versions is nice. But I primarily virtualize Windows and macOS. Presently, you can't virtualize the latter on Apple Silicon at all, and the former is a hot mess. Not a viable solution for me here. Hopefully Apple will do what's needed so that we can make Apple Silicon macOS VMs. That function was only too useful.
xCloud, GeForceNow and all of those still have limited libraries. It's not anywhere near as comprehensive as what you can get by natively booting Windows on your Mac.
I'm not sure why uniqueness of the CPU architecture is necessarily a good thing. It might've given you a warm and runny feeling that what you had was superior to that of your average Intel or AMD based Windows PC. But it's not like Apple didn't heavily modify Intel Macs as needed to put their own spin on things. Hell, T2 Macs are practically a whole different hardware platform in and of themselves, under the hood.
I'll take functional over special any day of the week. These things cost way too much money to just be special and not functional.
That's more marketing than anything. Mac OS X was processor architecture independent, as is every version in between 10.0 and 12.0 (and very likely beyond). The whole point is that it doesn't matter what hardware it runs on because it can run on ANY architecture (hence it appearing in the form on iOS in an ARM-based architecture in the iPhone and iPod touch in 2007. and later, in 2010, the iPad).
The only thing that made Apple different was that they were using something other than x86. Other than their inability to boot Mac OS 9 or run the Classic environment in any capacity, late era PowerBook G4s look, felt, and operated pretty similarly (albeit with the latter being a fair bit faster) to early model MacBook Pros. The firmware was the only real place that you'd even be able to tell a discernable difference in some cases.
please take a look at this and see how many apps have been made to native to Apple Sillicon:
Universal and Native Apple Silicon Apps
Moderator Note: Please note you need 20 posts before you will be able to edit the wiki. --------------------- Wiki to document universal and native Apple silicon apps as they are released. Currently, IsAppleSiliconReady.com has the most comprehensive database. Another tracking site that's...
Its only been 8 months so far.
I perused that list. I don't use most of those apps. It's nice that many developers have made the jump. Certainly if I only used my Mac for web browsing, e-mail, Microsoft Office, and media consumption, an Apple Silicon Mac would be just fine. However, not only do I use tools that aren't yet optimized for Apple Silicon; I also use tools, games, and many other elements that will NEVER be retooled for Apple Silicon and are inherent to the benefits the Mac platform had by being on x86.