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spaceballl

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I know my computer is no speed demon... it's a 1.2 ghz G4 iBook w/ 768mb of RAM, and a 15% or so overclocked Radeon 9200 in there w/ 32mb of RAM. This is not a speed demon, but generally speaking, this is not a bad computer. And OF COURSE, according to the Sim City requirements, this machine should tear right through this program... haha, and to think that on the box they say it can be run with a 500 mhz G3. I'd like to see that...

Okay so I think you all know what i'm getting at. Is there some big tweak i'm missing in order to make Sim City 4 NOT suck ass speed wise when the city gets big? Let me know...

-Kevin

P.S. I REALLY like this game... I wish this didn't happen!
 
spaceballl said:
I know my computer is no speed demon... it's a 1.2 ghz G4 iBook w/ 768mb of RAM, and a 15% or so overclocked Radeon 9200 in there w/ 32mb of RAM.
1. That's a fairly quick machine, really... don't diss the iBook!
2. Overclocked?! It's a laptop man! Doesn't it get, uh, you know... warm?
3. I had no real issues on my G4-800/640MB. Sure it's not background processes, or something such?
 
It runs pretty slow on my new 12" 1.33 GHz Powerbook. Haven't figured out any good way to really speed it up. I'm thinking that they just didn't do a very good job with the port to Mac.
 
I went from 1024x768 down to 800x600 and that didn't help too much. Kinda a bummer... I really like this game. I think that Aspyr didn't do enough optimizations for the mac. Hopefully, they will release another patch. That being said, it is a pretty slow performer on PCs too, but just not quite this bad. Like I can tell they just copied the code straight over from PCs and re-compiled it. If you take the tutorial, it tells you to right click things. If it were really ported well for the mac, it would say "right click or ctrl+click". And I tried control click. It doesn't work.

I'm going to e-mail Aspyr right now to see if we can expect anymore patches from them...

-Kevin

brap said:
2. Overclocked?! It's a laptop man! Doesn't it get, uh, you know... warm?
Haha Apple is always pretty conservative with their clock speeds so it doesn't get too warm.. It's only like 15% above the stock frequency. Plus, whenever I play games i'm usually at home w/ the wireless keyboard, mouse, and the iBook resting on the iCurve... so ventilation is pretty good.
 
So I just sent this letter to Aspyr... I'm not really sure if they'll respond or give us anything to work with, but I suppose it is worth it...

Hi there,

I just bought Sim City 4 for the Mac, and I would like to express a bit of disappointment in the product which Aspyr delivered. I understand that this is a port of the PC version, but it would have been nice to see the company work a bit on making it a more successful port.

For example, the minimum system requirements state that one needs a 500 mhz G3 processor, a Radeon 7500 or better, and 256mb of RAM. Looking at these minimum requirements, I figured that it would be no problem getting this game to run smoothly on my 1.2ghz G4 processor (more than twice the speed of the needed processor), 768mb of RAM (three times the amount of needed memory), and Radeon 9200 (much newer video card than the 7500). However, to my dismay, performance is pretty abysmal once the city in the game reaches any sort of decent size. I've tried stepping down the resolution and color depth, along with detail settings, and this helps SLIGHTLY, but not much. The game is supposed to more fun as you go along, but it is more of a damper once one gets into the game as it becomes unplayable.

My complaint with Aspyr is twofold. First of all, look at my system and look at the minimum requirements. My system is not fast enough to realy produce an enjoyable exerience, and I am CERTAIN that someone with the minimum requirements, even with all the settings as low as they go, could not have an enjoyable experience with the game either. This, in my opinion, is very deceptive marketing as I'm sure children received this game during the holidays to play on a computer which cannot really handle the game.

Second, I feel like Aspyr made a rushed port of the PC game, with little to no optimizations for the Mac platform. For example, to learn the game, I took one of the tutorials included with it. All was well until the tutorial instructed me to right click. Considering that Aspyr publishes so many mac games, I would have thought they would know the average mac really only has a one button mouse. On top of that, the game didn't give me the option to use "control + click" instead, and that combination of keys does not work.

Aspyr rushed this game out the door, with very little testing or recoding. I'm not sure if the problems I talked about are patchable, but if so, when can mac users expect an update in order to receive more of a quality product from Aspyr? Furthermore, can it be expected that all future PC ports from Aspyr will be of similiar low quality? If so, I would like to let a few magazines and websites know so we can try to avoid rush job PC ports.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,​
 
I assume most people have Rush Hour but if you don't you have to get it, it helps quite a bit. It runs ok on my imac 1ghz, 768mb, 64mb vram. Once you get into really big cities with the biggest maps not much can help you. I usually move to a blank area off the map and let it run, time usually passes faster since it's not having to show much.

It really doesn't matter what kind of system your on I heard people with top of the line power macs complaining about slow down.

simtropolis.com has a good mac fourm with some advice, although it's been slow lately.
 
It's not the port; the Windows version gets pretty bogged down as the city grows, too.
 
It runs quite slowly on all our computers too (a 1 GHz iBook, dual 1 GHz Power Mac G4, and a 1.33 Powerbook, all with 768 MB memory).

I personally have trouble with some expansion pack features -- the u-drive-it missions run so slowly that they're essentially unplayable!

Luckily, the rest of the game is so addictive that we put up with the slow speed!
 
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