I want this investment to last 2-3 years and, beyond the necessary 32 GB upgrade, am considering splurging on the Max processor instead of the regular Pro. Are there any reasons why someone who doesn't edit 4K videos or play computer games could use the great number of GPU cores? Will it be felt in every day life with other uses?
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Any reasons for someone who doesn't play games or edit videos to get Max?
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I don't know you're workflow, so can't answer that. But sounds like you already know you don't need it.
For video games better buy RTX 3070/3080 laptop. Its much faster and is running not only arm games and has features like DLSS. The M1 Max has only 10 tflops. RTX 3080 has ~16 tflops + ai features which m1 can only dream of 
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Also the screen of the m1 pro/max 14" 16" is too slow for fast games. It has much ghosting and it's stuttering if you scroll a website in chrome/safari.
For 120 hz you need 8.2 ms. The ipad pro 2021 12.9" has up to 50 ms. With this slow response times you will get only 20 hz. People who have know idea, think you can enable 120 hz in software and the display is showing it.
There are many fake panels outside. Especially slow ips and va panels. Im using for daily use the very fast LG 34GP950G. My Ipad Pro 12.9" 2021 is the slowest, then the Macbook Pro 2021 14", a little bit faster the 16" and the best with a worlds difference is the LG monitor.
.Also the screen of the m1 pro/max 14" 16" is too slow for fast games. It has much ghosting and it's stuttering if you scroll a website in chrome/safari.
For 120 hz you need 8.2 ms. The ipad pro 2021 12.9" has up to 50 ms. With this slow response times you will get only 20 hz. People who have know idea, think you can enable 120 hz in software and the display is showing it
.There are many fake panels outside. Especially slow ips and va panels. Im using for daily use the very fast LG 34GP950G. My Ipad Pro 12.9" 2021 is the slowest, then the Macbook Pro 2021 14", a little bit faster the 16" and the best with a worlds difference is the LG monitor.
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read again: NOT for gamingFor video games better buy RTX 3070/3080 laptop. Its much faster and is running not only arm games and has features like DLSS. The M1 Max has only 10 tflops. RTX 3080 has tflops + ai features which m1 can only dream of
Also the screen of the m1 pro/max 14" 16" is too slow for fast games. It has much ghosting and it's stuttering if you scroll a website in chrome/safari.
to the op: even the normal M1 would last for 5+ years easily
For 2-3 years? I'd say no, it's not needed. I'd also even say 32GB isn't needed for it to last 2-3 years. But again...we don't know what your workflow is or what apps you're using. I'm still rocking a 2017 MBP, and it's still more than enough for the basic video editing I do.
Get what what fits your current needs today. It's not worth investing into the future because tech changes so fast. If you have the money to splurge, then by all means get what makes you happy.
Get what what fits your current needs today. It's not worth investing into the future because tech changes so fast. If you have the money to splurge, then by all means get what makes you happy.
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YouTube has been slammed with a bunch of vids comparing the M1 Pro vs the M1 Max chip. Unless you're doing some heavy video editing, 3d graphics design.. you won't notice it.
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You are right, it's a bit late.
I would say if he needs mobile workstation and has to use the mac os apps, he should buy the m1 pro/max. He has no choice. For better performance i would use a x86 system. The keyfeatures of the m1 are the low noise and low power consumption. For mobile users this m1 chips are the best, if they use mac os.
You are right, it's a bit late.
I would say if he needs mobile workstation and has to use the mac os apps, he should buy the m1 pro/max. He has no choice. For better performance i would use a x86 system. The keyfeatures of the m1 are the low noise and low power consumption. For mobile users this m1 chips are the best, if they use mac os.
I hear that the Max version deletes the trash can so fast, you don't even realize you clicked on it. But rumor has it there is yet another version coming that's even faster! I'd wait for the next more expensive model to be announced. Waiting on the trash can to empty is nothing to laugh about.
I used today Cinebench R23. My 4.5 ghz all core 5900X is nearly double as fast as this m1 pro 10 core arm cpu.
I was really astonished that it only could compete with the 11800H. And even this is faster. It's using 16 Threads. The M1 Pro only 10.
The hype is massive about this M1 Pro/Max. In my opinion it's only reasonable for mac os users, who have no choice.
This cpu/gpu is worlds apart from modern desktop hardware. But the hdr display is really nice. Never seen a monitor before who has such a good local dimming. The PG32UQX is a blooming mess.
I was really astonished that it only could compete with the 11800H. And even this is faster. It's using 16 Threads. The M1 Pro only 10.
The hype is massive about this M1 Pro/Max. In my opinion it's only reasonable for mac os users, who have no choice.
This cpu/gpu is worlds apart from modern desktop hardware. But the hdr display is really nice. Never seen a monitor before who has such a good local dimming. The PG32UQX is a blooming mess.
I benchmarked this pc for my workflows and so far it is a mixed bag as far as performance. I mostly do software development and for some things, the speed is way faster, for others, the speed is about the same, and for some others, it is slower.
Of course, the crazy thing is that I am comparing this to my Ryzen 5950X. The computer does leave everything else in the dust as far as portability and noise.
Of course, the crazy thing is that I am comparing this to my Ryzen 5950X. The computer does leave everything else in the dust as far as portability and noise.
In fact, I don't find these new machines as impressive as they were hyped.
The biggest news is the low power consumption.
But I use solar energy in my house, it just doesn't matter to me.
If I want performance, there are other much better laptops, if I want beauty, the 2019 16" MacBook Pro is better.
The biggest news is the low power consumption.
But I use solar energy in my house, it just doesn't matter to me.
If I want performance, there are other much better laptops, if I want beauty, the 2019 16" MacBook Pro is better.
For video games better buy RTX 3070/3080 laptop. Its much faster and is running not only arm games and has features like DLSS. The M1 Max has only 10 tflops. RTX 3080 has ~16 tflops + ai features which m1 can only dream of
Nah, I'll keep using my Max 16" for primarily gaming and media consumption. I can play most of my games for 6-8 hours on battery with this thing. Those other guys barely manage an hour and a half. No other manufacturer offers MacOS or the quality of the MacBook Pro either.
Yes I spent 3500 bucks for a gaming laptop. The XPS I was considering was 3000. The Razer I was considering was 2800. Good computers cost a lot of money. I'll pay a little more for the Apple experience. This is the best laptop I've ever owned by a large margin and I don't regret it for a second.
Cinebench is just a benchmark using the CPU cores. A M1 Pro/Max is a lot more. In real world use cases and with properly optimised software using all the secondary processors and the GPU that are available, things will swing in favour of M1 again.
Cinebench is still based on the old CPU/GPU paradigm and with M1 this paradigm is severely shifting towards SOC with CPU/GPU/Accelerator cores/ML Cores/Render cores/Encryption-decryption cores/Hardware codecs/etc.
Did you pay a little more for the apple experience?
Well, with less than 1% of PC games available on the native Mac, I'm assuming it's a pretty frustrating experience.
With that money, I could have bought the 16" base, a PS5 and a 4K monitor for both, and I assure you, the experience would be much better.
Not frustrating at all! It plays 90% of the games I enjoy without any issue and without Parallels or anything like that. Gamer doesn’t necessarily equal AAA titles- I have basically no interest in those. I have a 9900K/3080 gaming rig for anything else the Mac doesn’t do.
A PS5 would sit here and gather dust. I’m quite happy with my setup.
I can share with you my reason for wanting to go with the Max. It's the only one that supports 64GB of memory.