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Anybody has the same problem? (Photo clarity)

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airfang

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Apr 12, 2007
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The same jpg file is shown differently in Safari and Photo, to be more precise:

when I zoom in the image in Safari, after a while it becomes clear and explicit

but when the same image is zoomed in in Photo, it just stays blurry

anyone has experience the same thing?
 
Silverbird0000 said:
I have noticed that too. I just figure the version of your pictures that iTunes uploads to the phone are so compressed that they get blurry up close.
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man.. that's annoying! why the heck would iTunes compress photos before uploading them...
 
Yeah, most of the photos on my iPhone don't actually show more detail when I zoom in. Also, the pics have annoying compression/noise on them, sort of tiny little squiggles, noticeable mainly in dark colours. Has everyone else noticed that too?
 
The photos you sync to the iPhone (according to iLounge) are all resized to 640 x 480. As far as I know there is no option to send the full-size photos over.
 
alFR said:
The photos you sync to the iPhone (according to iLounge) are all resized to 640 x 480. As far as I know there is no option to send the full-size photos over.
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What a stupid joke that is. Can't believe Apple could be so stupid as to do that.
 
Why? That is enough res to let you zoom in up to 200% on the phone screen and to display at 100% on a non-HD TV set. There's no disk mode on there (yet) and you're not exactly going to be editing photos on the phone, so why would you want higher res than that?
 
alFR said:
Why? That is enough res to let you zoom in up to 200% on the phone screen and to display at 100% on a non-HD TV set. There's no disk mode on there (yet) and you're not exactly going to be editing photos on the phone, so why would you want higher res than that?
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Because what's the point of zooming if there's no extra pixel information to zoom into? Apple make a big fuss about multitouch and 'pinching' in and out to zoom in, yet it serves no purpose because the images just get blurred when you zoom in with no added detail.

I don't want to be able to edit photos on the iPhone (although most other phones these days have that ability), what I want is to be able to view and zoom into some higher res photos. Simple as that.

No idea what Apple were thinking when they designed the photo application with that lack of basic functionality.
 
stevearm said:
Because what's the point of zooming if there's no extra pixel information to zoom into?
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There IS extra info: you can zoom it up to twice the size. Apple has designed this firbthe average consumer. The average consumer will have taken his photos composing the best s/he can with a camera. Then they will have cropped a few in iPhoto to make better compositions. Then selected the best if his/ her collection to put on the iPhone to take to friends and family. Apple have decided the average consumer vales capacity over detail. They have decided (quite rightly) that the average consumer is NOT Rik Dekkard, and seldome hasbtge need to zoom in an a reflection in a mirror in the background of a snap taken by a rengade replicant to see the snake scale clue.

That said I would value a little less compression.
 
stevearm said:
Because what's the point of zooming if there's no extra pixel information to zoom into? Apple make a big fuss about multitouch and 'pinching' in and out to zoom in, yet it serves no purpose because the images just get blurred when you zoom in with no added detail.

I don't want to be able to edit photos on the iPhone (although most other phones these days have that ability), what I want is to be able to view and zoom into some higher res photos. Simple as that.

No idea what Apple were thinking when they designed the photo application with that lack of basic functionality.
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exactly!
 
memesmith said:
There IS extra info: you can zoom it up to twice the size. Apple has designed this firbthe average consumer. The average consumer will have taken his photos composing the best s/he can with a camera. Then they will have cropped a few in iPhoto to make better compositions. Then selected the best if his/ her collection to put on the iPhone to take to friends and family. Apple have decided the average consumer vales capacity over detail. They have decided (quite rightly) that the average consumer is NOT Rik Dekkard, and seldome hasbtge need to zoom in an a reflection in a mirror in the background of a snap taken by a rengade replicant to see the snake scale clue.

That said I would value a little less compression.
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Nice speech, but unfortunately, you're missing the point completely. Yes you can zoom in to 200% but can you not understand that the image uploaded to the iPhone is 320x480. Which means zooming in will give you ZERO extra detail, it just makes things blurry which is of no use. Especially as a means of showing of pinching zoom capabilities.
 
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Silverbird0000 said:
I have noticed that too. I just figure the version of your pictures that iTunes uploads to the phone are so compressed that they get blurry up close.
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There has to be a way to change the amount of compression iTunes forces when transferring images. I hate how grainy images look on my iTouch!
 
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Just to clarify, I don't even particularly care about the resolution (although as has already been pointed out, zooming is just a gimmick that accomplishes nothing at all, since the pics are limited to 480x320 anyway) ... I digress, increased resolution would be nice, but in the meantime I'd LOVE to see less compression in images transferred to the iPhone/iPod Touch. Gradients look like utter crap now because of the ridiculous amount of dithering applied by iTunes' compression algorithm.
 
The same image will look surprisingly good when zoomed in couple of times on Safari... how hilarious!
 
stevearm said:
Nice speech, but unfortunately, you're missing the point completely. Yes you can zoom in to 200% but can you not understand that the image uploaded to the iPhone is 320x480. Which means zooming in will give you ZERO extra detail, it just makes things blurry which is of no use. Especially as a means of showing of pinching zoom capabilities.
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don't insult me

I'm not pissing the point completely. You'll note conclude by saying I could do with less compression. All I was doing was suggesting why.
 
mavis said:
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Just to clarify, I don't even particularly care about the resolution (although as has already been pointed out, zooming is just a gimmick that accomplishes nothing at all, since the pics are limited to 480x320 anyway) ... I digress, increased resolution would be nice, but in the meantime I'd LOVE to see less compression in images transferred to the iPhone/iPod Touch. Gradients look like utter crap now because of the ridiculous amount of dithering applied by iTunes' compression algorithm.
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lol, yea all the gradient wallpapers I've tested had a few problems. Overall it's not too bad if you're not looking for it.
 
tonywob said:
I might be going insane, but I remember the first time I synced my photos the the iPhone it asked me in a popup box if I would like to resize the photos to fit on the screen, I just clicked Yes and it has never asked me since. I have been unable to get this dialog to come back up, but I am certain I saw it :confused:
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There is defo a option some where, as I remember it coming up when I synced to my iPod. It asked if I wanted the full size images as well.

Dave
 
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Dave B said:
tonywob said:
I might be going insane, but I remember the first time I synced my photos the the iPhone it asked me in a popup box if I would like to resize the photos to fit on the screen, I just clicked Yes and it has never asked me since. I have been unable to get this dialog to come back up, but I am certain I saw it :confused:
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There is defo a option some where, as I remember it coming up when I synced to my iPod. It asked if I wanted the full size images as well.

Dave
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I think you guys are thinking about the old iPods (and the Classic/Nano, etc) ... That 'include full-size pictures' option was so that you could keep the original pictures on the iPod to access in disk mode. Since the iTouch doesn't have a disk mode (yet) that option isn't available (and doesn't actually affect how the iPod displays images anyway) ...
 
Along the lines of this topic... Has anyone wondered why the wallpapers the iPhone came with look so fantastic, but when you upload wallpapers from say, Sciphone, they look good, but not near the quality of the wallpapers that came with the phone? How did Apple upload such good quality photos but we can not? And remember the demo of the iPhone when it was introduced when Steve Jobs zoomed the pic of the little boy? That photo looked great when zoomed... why won't ours look like that. I've not seen one persons iPhone that had great quality pics besides the ones that came with it. If Apple was able to upload those great wallpapers, there has to be a way for us to do it too.
 
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