Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

MacRumors

macrumors bot
Original poster
Apr 12, 2001
69,262
40,280



Apple and Amazon have agreed to cease all exclusivity obligations previously put in place between the two companies regarding the supply and distribution of audiobooks through iTunes and Audible (via Reuters). The partnership between the two companies previously incited a complaint from the German Publishers and Booksellers Association in 2015 centering around the potential for a monopoly in the European audiobook industry by the two powerhouse companies.

Now, competition is expected to be boosted and the European Commission and the German Federal Cartel Office are welcoming the decision made by Apple and Amazon to end their exclusive distribution deal of Audible audiobooks on iTunes, meaning other companies can now distribute audiobooks on Apple's popular digital marketplace. Simultaneously, Audible can now place its audiobooks on other digital marketplaces for users to download.

audible-itunes-antitrust.jpg

On Thursday, the German Federal Cartel Office said it has officially closed its investigation because "there was no further reason to continue."
"The European Commission welcomes an agreement to end all exclusivity obligations concerning audiobook supply and distribution between Amazon's subsidiary Audible and Apple," the EU competition authority said in a statement.

"With the deletion of the exclusivity agreement Apple will now have the opportunity to purchase digital audiobooks from other suppliers," Andreas Mundt, president of the German cartel office, said in a statement.
Back in 2015, the German Publishers and Booksellers Association began its complaint by saying that Apple and Amazon were "abusing their dominant market position" with the audiobook deal. In total, more than 90 percent of all audiobook downloads in Germany are made through Amazon's Audible service, or via iTunes, making the pairing of the two companies particularly troublesome in the eyes of the association.

According to the German Cartel Office's president, Andreas Mundt, the end of the exclusivity deal "will enable a wider range of offer and lower prices for consumers." The deal's termination touches all markets that Apple and Amazon previously had exclusive audiobook coverage over, not just those in Europe.

The audiobook case differs from Apple's long-running e-book price-fixing lawsuit, which finally reached an end last year and saw the company forced to pay a $450 million settlement. The case began in 2014 when Apple was found guilty of conspiring with publishers to inflate the prices of e-books, with the $450 million settlement reached in March of 2016. Specifically, the amount was broken down with $400 million paid out to e-book customers, $20 million to the states, and $30 million in the form of legal fees.

Article Link: Apple and Amazon End Audiobook Exclusivity Deal Amid Growing Concerns of a Monopoly
 
This could be big for the digital book industry... if people still read often.
 
What are the implications? Will this allow us to buy Audible content in the Audible app? Or Audible content in the iTunes store?
 
What are the implications? Will this allow us to buy Audible content in the Audible app? Or Audible content in the iTunes store?
My understanding is that it only stops the exclusivity agreements with publishers. I would imagine the apps will stay the same
 
If you want to regularly buy audiobooks it will usually make much more sense to subscribe to Audible itself anyway - the prices for many titles bought individually are often crazy (e.g. around 3 times what a monthly subscription costs) by comparison. But this is still a good thing for people only interested in buying one or two lower-priced audiobooks very occasionally.

And of course if it means greater access to non-DRM audiobooks on sale from other audiobook sellers that would be a nice thing too...
 
I'm trying to figure out how $15 per month for one audiobook (audible)is different than $10 for unlimited Netflix movies, or for that matter the $99 per year amazon movies(Prime account).

Goodbye Audible??,
confused
 
All I want is audiobooks without DRM. Right now I cannot be bothered to rip audiobooks, so I keep my money.
[doublepost=1484846633][/doublepost]
I'm trying to figure out how $15 per month for one audiobook (audible)is different than $10 for unlimited Netflix movies, or for that matter the $99 per year amazon movies(Prime account).

Goodbye Audible??,
confused

I think the problem is supply and demand. It clearly costs much more to produce a film compared to an audiobook, but there are far fewer of us that enjoy a decent audiobook.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Porco
I'm trying to figure out how $15 per month for one audiobook (audible)is different than $10 for unlimited Netflix movies, or for that matter the $99 per year amazon movies(Prime account).

Goodbye Audible??,
confused
Are you confused by the difference between $15 for ONE, I repeat ONE Audiobook that lasts an average of 5 hours vs. $10 for UNLIMITED streaming on Netflix?

There is definitely a major difference in the price per hour, that being said, one way that you can usually get a lot lower costs on Audiobooks is to get the Kindle version or have Kindle Unlimited, then add the narration at a majorly discounted rate, works very well.
 
I'm trying to figure out how $15 per month for one audiobook (audible)is different than $10 for unlimited Netflix movies, or for that matter the $99 per year amazon movies(Prime account).

Goodbye Audible??,
confused

It's not a fair analogy because a) as @Christoffee said, far fewer people typically listen to an audiobook than watch a movie and b) many movies will already have made their money back+a good profit before they even get near Netflix, and from then on it's all just pure profit. There isn't an equivalent of a movie theatre for audiobooks, is there?

Whatever....I just want to know were is my Amazon app for Apple TV?

In the same place as the iTunes app for FireTV? :D
 
Will be happy to options other than using Audible. Downloaded an audiobook from them that put a ton of tracking software on my laptop, wasn't worth keeping it to leave that installed. I have various audiobooks I've ripped from cds, but it hasn't gotten included in iTunes Match and limited improvements in the iBooks player for audiobooks. Maybe now Apple can put some direction into a a better solution.
 
Will be happy to options other than using Audible. Downloaded an audiobook from them that put a ton of tracking software on my laptop, wasn't worth keeping it to leave that installed. I have various audiobooks I've ripped from cds, but it hasn't gotten included in iTunes Match and limited improvements in the iBooks player for audiobooks. Maybe now Apple can put some direction into a a better solution.

I share your mistrust of superfluous software that likes to phone home for no good reason, but iTunes is all you need to play audible files on the mac, you didn't need to download anything else. Download your audiobook from your account in a web browser and drag it into iTunes.
 
I tried to get into audiobooks, did the Audible free book trial and all, but something about having someone else read to me that is quite unsatisfying. Also when the reader does different voices for the characters and they're irritating, or the voice they do is different from the one I imagined.

No thank you. Books please :p
 
I kinda doubt Amazon is going to put their Audible content on Google Play, etc at this point. They're trying to lock you into the service with the podcast "channels" and that's just going to grow into something bigger in the long run. They've also been producing some audiobooks themselves.

As to why people even pay $15 for the one audiobook... Yeah, some of them are only five hours long, but there's others that go beyond 10 or even 16 hours. You don't necessarily read them in one go, you spread it out in chapters/minutes. And if you are looking for an extra read, it's still cheaper than getting it on discs or non-member prices.

Kindle Unlimited gives you access to the audiobook version of any of the books in the program by the way. Same with Prime Reading.
 
I'm trying to figure out how $15 per month for one audiobook (audible)is different than $10 for unlimited Netflix movies, or for that matter the $99 per year amazon movies(Prime account).

It's ~ $24 per month for the top tier plan, which gets you 2 credits - or 2 books - per month. I find $12 per book to be reasonable, when compared to per-title pricing on iTunes, Amazon or for audiobook CDs. It's worthwhile if you spend a lot of time commuting.

Amazon / Audible also frequently offer fairly deep discounts on the Audible title if you buy the Kindle version first. Its good to check that first, I often find where taking advantage of that gets me both the eBook and Audible title for $10 - and sometimes as little as $3 or $4. Audible also has sales often, which has the unwanted effect of draining my discretionary funds rapidly.

I like it. It's a decent value for readers who don't have enough time to read, due to work, family and commuting commitments. It's not for everyone, though.
[doublepost=1485016397][/doublepost]
I'm just trying to find the Audible books I already paid for. It seems they keep disappearing from my library!

Check your filter settings. The default view of your Library in Audible only shows the last 6 months of purchases, but you can change the setting. It will reset to the default the next time you check your Library, though.

You can also check Amazon for all of your digital purchases. Audible is an Amazon-owned company.

HTH.
[doublepost=1485016732][/doublepost]
Will be happy to options other than using Audible. Downloaded an audiobook from them that put a ton of tracking software on my laptop, wasn't worth keeping it to leave that installed. I have various audiobooks I've ripped from cds, but it hasn't gotten included in iTunes Match and limited improvements in the iBooks player for audiobooks. Maybe now Apple can put some direction into a a better solution.

If you download an audiobook from your Audible library or from Amazon, there's nothing else which downloads other than the book. I don't know what the use case would be with iTunes, because I always grab my downloads from the Audible app on my iPod Touch or on my iPhone or from the web (via the Audible library) - but I've *never* received anything other than the book.
 
I tried to get into audiobooks, did the Audible free book trial and all, but something about having someone else read to me that is quite unsatisfying. Also when the reader does different voices for the characters and they're irritating, or the voice they do is different from the one I imagined.

No thank you. Books please :p

I listen to them in the car I don't think I'd listen at home.

===

If you like classics check out this site:

https://librivox.org/
 
I love listening to audiobooks such an amazing experience. I wish prices will go down a bit I have many titles that I wanna listen to.

I would get more if the price were lower. I had back when a friend with similar tastes in one venue of books that let us do a swap deal on CD based audio books. This made it almost acceptable as far as price.
 
I would get more if the price were lower. I had back when a friend with similar tastes in one venue of books that let us do a swap deal on CD based audio books. This made it almost acceptable as far as price.
Some audiobooks are available on Youtube you can download them as mp3 files
 
Some audiobooks are available on Youtube you can download them as mp3 files

I might sound a tad daft here but I don't mind paying for the audio books (if) they were reasonably priced. However, I thank you for the suggestion that others too might find useful.
[doublepost=1485236597][/doublepost]
Try Downpour - No DRM audiobooks. $13 per book, for most books. I won't buy books with DRM, so they're kinda the holy grail for me:
http://www.downpour.com/
Thanks much. I'll give it a try.
 
  • Like
Reactions: canadianreader
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.