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Apple Defeats Patent Lawsuit in Texas Related to Face ID and Touch ID

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A jury for the U.S. District Court for Western Texas on Friday found that the Secure Enclave built into modern Apple devices does not infringe four user verification patents owned by the company "Identity Security LLC," according to Bloomberg Law.

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Apple introduced the Secure Enclave in 2013 in the iPhone 5s, the first iPhone with Touch ID, and it is now used in all iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and HomePod models. Apple says the Secure Enclave is a secure subsystem within its chips that is designed to keep sensitive user data secure, including Touch ID and Face ID data.

Identity Security LLC had sued Apple for patent infringement in 2021. It is not immediately clear if the company plans to appeal the jury's verdict.


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On one hand, it seems like the patents that they’re talking about in the lawsuit are exactly what the Secure Enclave is. So maybe they had a case.

But on the other hand, when I look up the company, I see no information on them except the patents they filed. No website, no products, no services, no anything. The only reference I can even find to them on LinkedIn is the law firm they’re being represented by, Cabello Hall Zinda.

So definitely a patent troll.
 
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How has big tech not pushed harder for serious patent reform? When our forefathers were patenting little machines, fine, because they more or less had to build it to get the patent. But now companies can just patent vague tech they have no capacity or intent to build. It has to stop.
 
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avatar77 said:
How has big tech not pushed harder for serious patent reform? When our forefathers were patenting little machines, fine, because they more or less had to build it to get the patent. But now companies can just patent vague tech they have no capacity or intent to build. It has to stop.
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A pending patent should be able to be gotten on a concept that hasn't been completed yet, but yeah, there needs to be a time limit to produce an actual product to retain that patent.

I have had LOTS of ideas that I could have patented but don't have the resources to create the ideas into a real product. Crazy to think that could be patented and when someone else comes up with the idea I could sue for millions.
 
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An example of Apple’s infringement by the Secure Enclave is found in Exhibit 8
to this Complaint. By way of example, the digital identity devices, i.e., the Infringing Products,
each comprise a microprocessor, the Secure Enclave, wherein microprocessor identity information
uniquely identifies the microprocessor.
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Don't all chips have serial numbers, that can uniquely identify a chip?
 
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Realityck said:
I like how this so called company without any online presence, wanted to claim everything Apple sold was infringing on their four odd patients.
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That's how most patent trolls roll. They have a patent that either they partnered with the creator or bought it which could maybe sort of not really be related to something a large company is doing. They ask for a license fee or offer to sell it to the big company. It makes me sick, but a lot of companies pay this because in the long run it's cheaper than litigating. I helped my company fend off one of these jerks. They dropped everything when they realized we had enough prior art to invalidate their scam patents. Patent laws need an overhaul and trolls need consequences.
 
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I noticed a similar patent for sale on the web, not sure if it's the same one or not.

Maybe I'll give a few lawsuits a try. It's offered for $100. Not sure. Any patent attorneys out there willing to give some free advice? I'll give you a 70% cut. I live in Texas, if that helps.

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easy4lif said:
Never feed the Patent trolls! Only more will show up!
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Here's the thing ... Does the "troll" as you called them, own the IP and is Apple using their IP without compensating them. You don't get to call foul because of who the owner is. You don't get to come into my house and use my stuff without me agreeing to let you use it or without you paying me. And how they got the property isn't really the other side's business as long as it wasn't done illegally.

Patent trolls are not the fault of the patent troll. They are the fault of the government and more exactly, Congress. IF you don't like them being in business, figure out how to legally put them out of business.

BTW, Apple and the rest of the tech gargantuans frequently abuse IP owned by others and count on their economic and political power to lessen or eliminate the risk
 
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