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Apple recently expanded the indoor mapping feature first introduced in iOS 11 to new locations, including the Sydney Kingsford Smith Airport and indoor malls located in Dallas and Houston, Texas. The additions were noted on Apple's Feature Availability page for iOS 11.

At launch, indoor maps were only available in a handful of airports and malls around the world, but Apple has been steadily adding additional mall and airport maps.

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Indoor maps are now available in more than 35 of the largest airports in the world, while indoor mall maps are available in a select number of cities in the United States and Europe, including Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, London, Los Angeles, New York, Philadelphia, San Jose, San Francisco, and Washington, DC.

Apple's indoor mapping feature provides full layouts of each mall or airport location with icons for restaurants, elevators, bathrooms, shops, and other notable landmarks. Different floors are clearly marked, making it easy to navigate through unknown areas.

At airports, Maps users can see the location of gates, terminals security checkpoints, check-in desks, and baggage claim areas, which can be helpful when in a new location. As for malls, stores can be filtered by categories like clothes, beauty, food, and shoes, making it quicker to find what you're looking for.

A full list of all of the airports and mall locations where the Apple Maps indoor mapping feature can be used is available on Apple's website.

Article Link: Apple Expands Indoor Maps Availability at Airports and Malls
 
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After today’s announcements by Google, Apple’s got a lot more to worry about than indoor mapping.

Don’t get me wrong, this is handy. However, the AI race is leaving them behind.
Do you really believe this unannounced update is all Apple has been working on for the last year? Google comes out with a lot of flash that no one ever uses. Add up the last 4 years of innovation from them where the story was Apple is loosing the battle and the count the number of those things that ever made it to market and of those that did and anyone ever used them, how many encouraged a single sale or is still in use today. In fact many of those features required the latest OS which almost nobody has to this day.
 
Your way more confident than I am,
and I’m 110% in Apple’s ecosystem. I see Google playing an extremely long term game.

One feature that caught my eye is wireless Android Auto. Perhaps CarPlay gets there, but I’m sick of having to plug in to use it - completely sucks when wanting to use my phone to pay at Starbucks (or wherever).

Look at more than just the OS level crap. Look at photos, and what they are doing there. Also, never mind the fact that you get unlimited storage for photos - which, I would bet most like.

Again, I presently pay for extra iCloud storage for my stuff. I’m just getting to the point where it “appears” Apple is falling behind on software and Google is advancing quickly on hardware.

Just my opinion.



Do you really believe this unannounced update is all Apple has been working on for the last year? Google comes out with a lot of flash that no one ever uses. Add up the last 4 years of innovation from them where the story was Apple is loosing the battle and the count the number of those things that ever made it to market and of those that did and anyone ever used them, how many encouraged a single sale or is still in use today. In fact many of those features required the latest OS which almost nobody has to this day.
 
Your way more confident than I am,
and I’m 110% in Apple’s ecosystem. I see Google playing an extremely long term game.

One feature that caught my eye is wireless Android Auto. Perhaps CarPlay gets there, but I’m sick of having to plug in to use it - completely sucks when wanting to use my phone to pay at Starbucks (or wherever).

Look at more than just the OS level crap. Look at photos, and what they are doing there. Also, never mind the fact that you get unlimited storage for photos - which, I would bet most like.

Again, I presently pay for extra iCloud storage for my stuff. I’m just getting to the point where it “appears” Apple is falling behind on software and Google is advancing quickly on hardware.

Just my opinion.
Well, keep in mind that Apple was two years ahead of Google with CarPlay and when Apple got manufacturers on board the next year Google convinced them to wait yet another so they could catch up and release a version at the same time they rolled out. The same happened with the wireless. Apple added it almost 3 years ago with iOS 9. Mercedes finally released cars with it last year, but for the most part manufacturers kept it on the shelf until Google could catch up. Now that Google has its copy ready it ok to release it. Here’s one by BMW on sale now. https://www.slashgear.com/wireless-carplay-review-2018-bmw-640i-gt-cuts-the-cord-16527444/

I guess if you can artificially delay a release by 2-3 years Even fans of the originator don’t remember it was their idea.
 
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One feature that caught my eye is wireless Android Auto. Perhaps CarPlay gets there, but I’m sick of having to plug in to use it - completely sucks when wanting to use my phone to pay at Starbucks (or wherever).
CarPlay got there 3 years ago when Wireless CarPlay was introduced in iOS9. But please continue ranting about how Apple will never catch up to features they've had for years.
 
Why is Apple wasting their time and money on this? Even if they caught up with Google in terms of street view and indoor maps,(long way to go) it wouldn’t benefit us users. We don’t need another maps option. Try listening to your customers and maybe give them features we actually want and care about. Thank you :)
 
After today’s announcements by Google, Apple’s got a lot more to worry about than indoor mapping.

Don’t get me wrong, this is handy. However, the AI race is leaving them behind.
I feel the same. Here’s hoping Apple lets us set default apps one of these years
 
Why is Apple wasting their time and money on this? Even if they caught up with Google in terms of street view and indoor maps,(long way to go) it wouldn’t benefit us users. We don’t need another maps option. Try listening to your customers and maybe give them features we actually want and care about. Thank you :)

As someone who hasn’t used anything other than Apple Maps for years now, I appreciate their constant updates and desire to make the service better.
 
Why is Apple wasting their time and money on this? Even if they caught up with Google in terms of street view and indoor maps,(long way to go) it wouldn’t benefit us users. We don’t need another maps option. Try listening to your customers and maybe give them features we actually want and care about. Thank you :)
In that case, Apple should just close it's doors. What do you need any iPhone for when there are thousands of Android phones to choose from? Or better yet, just get a Nokia or Motorola phone, those still exist, right? Same with the Mac, just pick any of hundreds of Windows PC, or an IBM computer. You don't need an option from Apple, what good has competition ever brought consumers?
 
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Could be.

However, I can’t use CarPlay wirelessly in my 2016 F150 (top of line), and it’s not the truck. It would appear that with the latest Pixel (released last fall) and Android P, I could use Android Auto wirelessly.

I don’t pretend to know who is delaying what, I can only go off what I see as a consumer. I will say that as an Apple fanatic who spends a ton of money on their products for my family of four, I’m growing concerned with what I see.

Sure, they are little things. However, they are starting to pile up in my opinion. Do I think Apple is going out of business - heck no. Couldn’t be further from the truth.

However, I think Android is starting to catch up and offers some compelling features Apple can’t match.

Who knows, maybe all this talk about Apple polishing up in iOS 12 is crap, and they will blow the doors off with innovative things.

I just don’t think they can afford to take a year off. Look at the native apps for example. Sure, they work and I use them... however, they are falling behind in features and I can’t even change the default - it’s time.

I’ve found myself installing more Google Apps and at some point I wonder when that path leads to Android, that’s all.


Well, keep in mind that Apple was two years ahead of Google with CarPlay and when Apple got manufacturers on board the next year Google convinced them to wait yet another so they could catch up and release a version at the same time they rolled out. The same happened with the wireless. Apple added it almost 3 years ago with iOS 9. Mercedes finally released cars with it last year, but for the most part manufacturers kept it on the shelf until Google could catch up. Now that Google has its copy ready it ok to release it. Here’s one by BMW on sale now. https://www.slashgear.com/wireless-carplay-review-2018-bmw-640i-gt-cuts-the-cord-16527444/

I guess if you can artificially delay a release by 2-3 years Even fans of the originator don’t remember it was their idea.
 
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Guys? I think Apple may just have enabled their version of Street View on 11.4 public beta. I’m seeing a LOT more areas mapped in 3D.
 
Why is Apple wasting their time and money on this? Even if they caught up with Google in terms of street view and indoor maps,(long way to go) it wouldn’t benefit us users. We don’t need another maps option. Try listening to your customers and maybe give them features we actually want and care about. Thank you :)

When companies copy Apple, I keep reading about how that’s ok because “competition” is great, but if Apple decides to compete with an incumbent, Apple is just copying or wasting their time.

You could just as easily have said, Google is wasting their time with maps and Android because Mapquest and iOS existed and were far superior.

Also, the main reason Apple created their own maps app is because Google withheld the latest maps features from iOS so they could promote Android. Pretty good justification if you ask me.

And in just a few years, Apple made great strides and caught up to Google maps in many ways and surpassed it in others so I guess competition is good.
 
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Apple recently expanded the indoor mapping feature first introduced in iOS 11 to new locations, including the Sydney Kingsford Smith Airport and indoor malls located in Dallas and Houston, Texas. The additions were noted on Apple's Feature Availability page for iOS 11.

At launch, indoor maps were only available in a handful of airports and malls around the world, but Apple has been steadily adding additional mall and airport maps.

sydneyairport-800x369.jpg

Indoor maps are now available in more than 35 of the largest airports in the world, while indoor mall maps are available in a select number of cities in the United States and Europe, including Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, London, Los Angeles, New York, Philadelphia, San Jose, San Francisco, and Washington, DC.

Apple's indoor mapping feature provides full layouts of each mall or airport location with icons for restaurants, elevators, bathrooms, shops, and other notable landmarks. Different floors are clearly marked, making it easy to navigate through unknown areas.

At airports, Maps users can see the location of gates, terminals security checkpoints, check-in desks, and baggage claim areas, which can be helpful when in a new location. As for malls, stores can be filtered by categories like clothes, beauty, food, and shoes, making it quicker to find what you're looking for.

A full list of all of the airports and mall locations where the Apple Maps indoor mapping feature can be used is available on Apple's website.

Article Link: Apple Expands Indoor Maps Availability at Airports and Malls

Sweet! Now I can turn right and make a U-Turn while walking!
 
Is there a way for users to map buildings and submit them to Apple? I believe you can do that with Google Maps...

It’s be great to get 3-D maps of our larger campus buildings into as many map ecosystems as possible.
 
In that case, Apple should just close it's doors. What do you need any iPhone for when there are thousands of Android phones to choose from? Or better yet, just get a Nokia or Motorola phone, those still exist, right? Same with the Mac, just pick any of hundreds of Windows PC, or an IBM computer. You don't need an option from Apple, what good has competition ever brought consumers?
Whoa! Slow down there bud! We’re talking about one single app. You went a little overboard with all that nonsense! All I’m saying is that they are wasting there time and effort with this. How many times have you heard someone requesting Apple make a better maps app? Wouldn’t you rather have them use those resources to develop something else? Lets say, a less buggy iOS? Or a better design to charge the Apple pencil? Or a new MacPro? I know I would.
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As someone who hasn’t used anything other than Apple Maps for years now, I appreciate their constant updates and desire to make the service better.
Well then you dont know what your missing. Just try another one and see for yourself. You wont be disappointed.
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When companies copy Apple, I keep reading about how that’s ok because “competition” is great, but if Apple decides to compete with an incumbent, Apple is just copying or wasting their time.

You could just as easily have said, Google is wasting their time with maps and Android because Mapquest and iOS existed and were far superior.

Also, the main reason Apple created their own maps app is because Google withheld the latest maps features from iOS so they could promote Android. Pretty good justification if you ask me.

And in just a few years, Apple made great strides and caught up to Google maps in many ways and surpassed it in others so I guess competition is good.
We don’t need another map app. Especially one thats still years behind the competition. Wouldn’t you rather them use that resource elsewhere like developing a less buggy iOS, features that customers actually request, or you know, a new MacPro? I know I sure would.
 
Whoa! Slow down there bud! We’re talking about one single app. You went a little overboard with all that nonsense! All I’m saying is that they are wasting there time and effort with this. How many times have you heard someone requesting Apple make a better maps app? Wouldn’t you rather have them use those resources to develop something else? Lets say, a less buggy iOS? Or a better design to charge the Apple pencil? Or a new MacPro? I know I would.
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Well then you dont know what your missing. Just try another one and see for yourself. You wont be disappointed.
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We don’t need another map app. Especially one thats still years behind the competition. Wouldn’t you rather them use that resource elsewhere like developing a less buggy iOS, features that customers actually request, or you know, a new MacPro? I know I sure would.

Apple Maps is much better than what you say it is, comparable to Google.
I find Apple Maps to be more accurate than Google.
I don't like google to know my whereabouts, they use that information for things I don't like, like the "For you" they just announced, for adds amongst others.
 
Look at photos, and what they are doing there. Also, never mind the fact that you get unlimited storage for photos - which, I would bet most like.

The only edits I want done to my photos are ones that I do. I'd rather pay for storage than have all my photos shrunk, regardless of whether or not they're landscapes from vacation or beer for Untappd check ins.

Yes, I know I can pay for full-resolution storage on Google, but at that point I'm paying Google to hold my data, that they're using to build Skynet.
 
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I would love it if SOMEWHERE, ANYWHERE, there was some explanation of how to access these indoor airport maps. Do I just open maps when I'm in one of these locations and my phone just knows and places me in that airport? Say I'm in Chicago's O'Hare Airport, but I want a map of the city of Chicago. How does it know what I want? I can't find anything online explaining how to access this feature. That seems like a pretty important detail. Does anyone know the answer?
 
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