Apple Expert, not an expert at all?

[FX4568]

The apple expert I contacted said that the 13 inch Intel 3000HD was better than the 320m.
Have I been lied to or this actually true? Not trying to troll or anything, I just want to know if I have been wrong. Since intel 3000HD and screen res are the only things that bother me about the 13 inch MBP.

Thanks for your help.

 

[simsaladimbamba]

Maybe this can help:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-3000.37948.0.html

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1102972/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1102927/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1103257/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1101065/
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Have you also taken a look at MRoogle, since that question may have been asked several times?

 

[FX4568]

Yes, I know MRoogle, I have seen those threads, read those threads, and answered those threads.
But as logic goes, I would have a tendency to trust someone who is hired by Apple.
But well, I guess 320m is better than the 3000HD then.

 

[simsaladimbamba]

Yes, I know MRoogle, I have seen those threads, read those threads, and answered those threads.
But as logic goes, I would have a tendency to trust someone who is hired by Apple.
But well, I guess 320m is better than the 3000HD then.

Just because someone works for Apple in Retail or as an "Expert" does mean that they know their stuff.
There have been enough documented instances, where Apple's employees can't tell an orange from a mandarine and stuff like that.
They are just like any other big company, just a little bit better in some areas, and worse in others.
Do you need to do any GPU intensive tasks?

 

[GGJstudios]

But as logic goes, I would have a tendency to trust someone who is hired by Apple.

Remember, "Genius" is their job title, not an indication of their knowledge, experience or expertise.

There have been enough documented instances, where Apple's employees can't tell an orange from a mandarine and stuff like that.

Yeah, everyone should know that an orange is 32-bit and a mandolin is 64-bit!

 

[simsaladimbamba]

Yeah, everyone should know that an orange is 32-bit and a mandolin is 64-bit!

And that not every letter is the latter. Man, you missed another exciting virus debate over at 4chan, we were missing you. But I saved you some posts, though you have to Facebook me via YouTube. I will send you a twit or something like this. LOL omg **** *, or so they told me to tell you. You know, those voices in my head. And the other.

* S T F U is censored? Wow, I seriously think that more people over 50 than people below 15/16 (or whatever the legal limit is in the USoA) don't know what S T F U means. Whatever, as the 88 would shoot.

 

[squeakr]

Remember,
Yeah, everyone should know that an orange is 32-bit and a mandolin is 64-bit!

I agree if you can't tell the difference between an orange and a mandolin.... one is a piece of fruit and the other a musical instrument.

 

[GGJstudios]

I agree if you can't tell the difference between an orange and a mandolin.... one is a piece of fruit and the other a musical instrument.

Yeah, but which is which?

You know, those voices in my head.

Yes, they're all on my friend's list.

Wow, I seriously think that more people over 50 than people below 15/16 (or whatever the legal limit is in the USoA) don't know what S T F U means.

Shirley Temple Friends, United.

 

[FX4568]

Do you need to do any GPU intensive tasks?

Games

 

[mgacam2]

Just wanted to throw it out there that Apple employees are definitely not "just a bit better" than average and a little bit worse in some areas. The HD3000 is better is some tasks. Especially when all of those tasks are running in OSX not windows. Apple employees go through quite a bit to have that job so don't be so quick to judge their intelligence. Thanks

 

[NZed]

Games

What kinds?

If intensive gaming. Forget the HD3000

 

[leman]

Games

If you plan to play games intensively, neither 320M nor HD3000 would make you happy. The thing is, the HD3000 may be marginally slower than the 320M, but in respect to their subjective performance in games they are mor or less equal. In other words, it does not matter whether you get 25 fps or 22 fps. You can play games with both of these cards with ok quality, but don't expect stellar performance. You can also check out youtube, there are many videos demonstrating HD3000's performance on demanding games like Crysis etc.

 

[AppleMacFinder]

The apple expert I contacted said that the 13 inch Intel 3000HD was better than the 320m.
Have I been lied to or this actually true? Not trying to troll or anything, I just want to know if I have been wrong. Since intel 3000HD and screen res are the only things that bother me about the 13 inch MBP.

Thanks for your help.

Really, 3000HD is better than 320m, according to many benchmarks.

Check this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1102927/

 

[vant]

Really, 3000HD is better than 320m, according to many benchmarks.

Check this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1102927/

There is a large debate on that thread. Look at post #19 and #59.

Now look at the Intel results here. Using the same method, you can see that (for example), the 3dMark06 is being run on 2500K, 2600K, 2820QM and 2720QM, which are is 2 i7 quad core mobile CPUs, an i5 at 3+ Ghz and an i7 at 3+ Ghz, so, of course, the benchmark is going to appear much faster.

Please, don't post your thread as if it is facts. The 3000HD has been shown in many cases to be worse. The only benchmarks I see are quad core ones.

 

[gullySn0wCat]

The HD3000 is broadly similar to the 320 and shouldn't be the deciding factor in your purchase. Really.

 

[Exana]

I spend some time on forums to collect GPU score from 3D Mark Vantage (3D Mark 06 is outdated) to compare MacBook Pro 3D power. Here are the results :

It's about the GeForce 9600m GT, HD Graphics 3000 or GeForce 320m, it's all about the same. BTW, Radeon HD 6750 rules them all !