Apple Loses Appeal in Patent Countersuit With Kodak

[MacRumors]

The International Trade Commission is upholding a judge's decision from May that Kodak did not infringe on several of Apple's digital photography patents.

This decision was part of a countersuit Apple filed in response to a patent lawsuit originally filed by Kodak early last year against both Apple and Research in Motion.

Kodak lost the original judgement in its lawsuit, alleging Apple and RIM violated two of its patents around image preview and processing -- but in an appeal the ITC decided to "affirm in part, reverse in part, and remand in part" the ruling that Apple and RIM had not infringed on Kodak's patents. A decision in that case is expected at the end of August.

Article Link: Apple Loses Appeal in Patent Countersuit With Kodak

 

[theheadguy]

Bad news is usually posted in Page 2

I wonder what happens when an Apple lawyer or outside counsel loses a case... I can see them drowning themselves in a beer that night thinking that Steve is gonna be pissed!

 

[*LTD*]

So what.

It's Kodak.

Money to keep an old beached whale on life support.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304567604576454463932307704.html

What impact will any of this have on ket markets? None.

 

[haydn!]

You win some, you loose some.

Compared to what was/is at stake with the Nokia, Samsung and HTC cases I doubt Apple will be too phased by loosing this one. I can't imagine the licensing will make a noticeable dent in Apple's margins.

 

[kresh]

So what.

It's Kodak.

Money to keep an old beached whale on life support.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304567604576454463932307704.html

What impact will any of this have on ket markets? None.

Where is your religiously indignant fervor about companies that can't innovate (and stealing from those that can) that you exhibit every time Apple sues someone?

 

[*LTD*]

Where is your religiously indignant fervor about companies that can't innovate (and stealing from those that can) that you exhibit every time Apple sues someone?

It's Kodak. It's like Apple paying off Taco Bell.

BFD.

 

[samcraig]

It's Kodak. It's like Apple paying off Taco Bell.

BFD.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[0098386]

Where is your religiously indignant fervor about companies that can't innovate (and stealing from those that can) that you exhibit every time Apple sues someone?

This is the best post I've read on MR, congrats sir!

And of course a fanboy isn't a fanboy without being slightly hypocritical. I don't think we'll get an answer.

 

[bri1212]

This is the best post I've read on MR, congrats sir!

And of course a fanboy isn't a fanboy without being slightly hypocritical. I don't think we'll get an answer.

This is not a case against Apple, this is a case where Apple is accusing Kodak of violating their patent. In this case it was ruled that Kodak did not violate the patent. This has nothing to do with the other cases that Kodak may have against Apple. Or any case in which Apple is supposed to violated someone else's copywrite.

Go play on your Droids

 

[paul4339]

You win some, you loose some.

Compared to what was/is at stake with the Nokia, Samsung and HTC cases I doubt Apple will be too phased by loosing this one. I can't imagine the licensing will make a noticeable dent in Apple's margins.

$1 billion (between Apple & RIM) according to this bloomberg article:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-1-billion-patent-case-against-apple-rim.html

edit: but that figure was based on the $1B Kodak extracted from Samsung/LG.

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[oheckyeah]

Where is your religiously indignant fervor about companies that can't innovate (and stealing from those that can) that you exhibit every time Apple sues someone?

YES!!!! as the careful observer will notice, there are currently 9 responses to this newsflash, yet there are 144 avid supporters of the Apple vs. HTC suit. I guess only apple can sue, as they are the source of all innovations in the tech sector??

As another reader stated, this is bar none, the best response to a macrumors article I have ever seen.

 

[*LTD*]

I guess only apple can sue, as they are the source of all innovations in the tech sector??

You're getting warmer. The infringements against Apple are probably legion by now.

 

[tundrabuggy]

YES!!!! as the careful observer will notice, there are currently 9 responses to this newsflash, yet there are 144 avid supporters of the Apple vs. HTC suit. I guess only apple can sue, as they are the source of all innovations in the tech sector??

As another reader stated, this is bar none, the best response to a macrumors article I have ever seen.

You've got to be kidding me with this best response garbage?

Kodak's technology is on par with the invention of the Wheel at this point, why give that old technology a billion dollars to keep them afloat...a virtual TARP fund that only serves to make the consumers products cost more. Its a billion that could be invested in new innovations by a company (Apple) with its thumb on the pulse of technology instead of a company on life support.

 

[SlugBlanket]

This thread just goes to show that certain Apple supporters are indeed Human.

They exhibit the same arrogant, narrow-minded, belligerent stupidity and a refusal to acknowledge wrong from right that are hallmarks of our less than perfect species.

If any company infringes another's patents they should pay.

I'm sure the thousands of employees of Kodak and their families will welcome some of the above comments that they should effectively be made jobless just because they don't pray to the God of Apple.

 

[*LTD*]

If any company infringes another's patents they should pay.

Oh, I'm quite sure Apple will pay if they infringed.

Except this time it was hardly worth writing about.

This is why this article got as few comments as it did. No one really cares.

 

[Tigger11]

This thread just goes to show that certain Apple supporters are indeed Human.

They exhibit the same arrogant, narrow-minded, belligerent stupidity and a refusal to acknowledge wrong from right that are hallmarks of our less than perfect species.

If any company infringes another's patents they should pay.

I'm sure the thousands of employees of Kodak and their families will welcome some of the above comments that they should effectively be made jobless just because they don't pray to the God of Apple.

I think most on here believe that Kodak has the right (and should) protect its patents, I'm just not sure I agree with they approach they are taking with Apple and RIM. With a market capitalization of only $650M, it might be cheaper to buy the company rather then pay for the rights to use the patents. I'm guessing that is why Kodak is now shopping the patents according to the article this morning in the WSJ. Wouldn't be surprised if Apple ends up the owner of the patents and the case just goes away.