By now the "Emerging Issue" as Apple Support calls it, is way more than just emerging. It is nasty and quite pervasive and unfortunately a bit intermittent, which is always a troubleshooting nightmare when trying to consistently recreate the problem.
To the best of my cursory testing, the POP email problem seems to be related to whether you have more than one mobile device or computer downloading the same POP account(s).
With my iPhone 6, iPad Air (both using iOS 9.1) wise by side with my MacBook Pro (10.10.5) and Mac Pro (10.7.5), that my computers are uneffected, consistently, so the bug seems specific to iOS 9 devices.
My Mac Pro is designated as my main computer such that my MBP, and mobile devices are "Windows" or better, satellites into my digital world. As such my AppleMail settings on my MBP, iPad, and iPhone don't delete mail from the server when deleted or moved from their inboxes. But upon download on my MP, then I have downloaded email deleted from the server.
I need to try the discussed workaround to not have any device or computer delete downloaded email and see if this fixes or improves issues.
But I always thought that with POP accounts, that downloaded mail, unlike IMAP mail, was actually downloaded so if after downloading mail, you later deleted that mail off the server, since those emails were now locally resident say on your iPad, that dnld and deleting from server using your computer couldn't effect the resident email. Of Couse if you have my configuration and download/delete mail using my MP and then check mail with any device or computer, Tahoe email just downloaded/delete with the MP no longer exists on the server and can't dnld again.
Prior to iOS 9, I got my POP email while away from my MP and then dnld/deleted all my mail on my MP and then stored and deleted as needed.
Up to a few versions ago, the setting on devices to delete email when moved from your inbox was a quasi IMAP function because I could trash unwanted and junk email while away from my main MP so those emails were off the server and didn't dnld to my MP so I didn't have to double delete. But that stopped working awhile ago to little outcry at least that I could find. It is sorely missed. And yes converting to IMAP would allow this behavior and stop double or more deleting.
THE BIGGER PROBLEM:
To me, it seems Apple has never embraced and developed AppleMail as a top of the line email client. Why I can't venture a guess. It has just enough features but certainly isn't as robust as it could be to make it a must have client.
The iOS versions are pared down versions of the OS X models sadly.
My biggest iOS AppleMail gripe is if you use folders to store your mail whether On You Mac or in an IMAP account, AppleMail doesn't have collapsing folders so all folders are open all the time. If you have nested folders instead of:
> FOLDER:
> FOLDER:
> FOLDER:
> FOLDER:
If there are nested folders inside, in iOS AppleMail you see and scroll:
FOLDER:
--Folder
--Folder
--Folder
-----Folder
--Folder
FOLDER:
--Folder
FOLDER:
--Folder
-----Folder
-----Folder
---------Folder
FOLDER:
---Folder
Imagine if all are,opened you have 100's of folders and thus are forced to scroll through a plethora of folders to get to the folder you need.
After years of this extremely Un-user friendly UI, how,is it that Apple design elegance is asleep,at the wheel here? I send Feedback regularly to no avail.
Then there's the lack of robust formatting. All we get is B/U/I
I won't enumerate the missing features here, but just leave you with whatever the iOS POP bug, it's my sense that the reason this bug happened in the first place is because AppleMail is not taken seriously and thus not designed seriously, upgraded or maintained seriously which creates an environment where this not dnld from server could even happen in the first place. Or if it did, that Apple had in place the resources and man power to fix it promptly.
AppleMail feels an unwanted step-child. OS X and worse iOS versions.
With how our lives revolve around our email, how is it that Apple doesn't have the premiere award winning marvel email client?
That's at the heart of the problem. No commitment, no vision, no pride in ownership.
And I've looked for the killer app replacement but not found it yet.
Apple, please wake up and make AppleMail all it can be!
To the best of my cursory testing, the POP email problem seems to be related to whether you have more than one mobile device or computer downloading the same POP account(s).
With my iPhone 6, iPad Air (both using iOS 9.1) wise by side with my MacBook Pro (10.10.5) and Mac Pro (10.7.5), that my computers are uneffected, consistently, so the bug seems specific to iOS 9 devices.
My Mac Pro is designated as my main computer such that my MBP, and mobile devices are "Windows" or better, satellites into my digital world. As such my AppleMail settings on my MBP, iPad, and iPhone don't delete mail from the server when deleted or moved from their inboxes. But upon download on my MP, then I have downloaded email deleted from the server.
I need to try the discussed workaround to not have any device or computer delete downloaded email and see if this fixes or improves issues.
But I always thought that with POP accounts, that downloaded mail, unlike IMAP mail, was actually downloaded so if after downloading mail, you later deleted that mail off the server, since those emails were now locally resident say on your iPad, that dnld and deleting from server using your computer couldn't effect the resident email. Of Couse if you have my configuration and download/delete mail using my MP and then check mail with any device or computer, Tahoe email just downloaded/delete with the MP no longer exists on the server and can't dnld again.
Prior to iOS 9, I got my POP email while away from my MP and then dnld/deleted all my mail on my MP and then stored and deleted as needed.
Up to a few versions ago, the setting on devices to delete email when moved from your inbox was a quasi IMAP function because I could trash unwanted and junk email while away from my main MP so those emails were off the server and didn't dnld to my MP so I didn't have to double delete. But that stopped working awhile ago to little outcry at least that I could find. It is sorely missed. And yes converting to IMAP would allow this behavior and stop double or more deleting.
THE BIGGER PROBLEM:
To me, it seems Apple has never embraced and developed AppleMail as a top of the line email client. Why I can't venture a guess. It has just enough features but certainly isn't as robust as it could be to make it a must have client.
The iOS versions are pared down versions of the OS X models sadly.
My biggest iOS AppleMail gripe is if you use folders to store your mail whether On You Mac or in an IMAP account, AppleMail doesn't have collapsing folders so all folders are open all the time. If you have nested folders instead of:
> FOLDER:
> FOLDER:
> FOLDER:
> FOLDER:
If there are nested folders inside, in iOS AppleMail you see and scroll:
FOLDER:
--Folder
--Folder
--Folder
-----Folder
--Folder
FOLDER:
--Folder
FOLDER:
--Folder
-----Folder
-----Folder
---------Folder
FOLDER:
---Folder
Imagine if all are,opened you have 100's of folders and thus are forced to scroll through a plethora of folders to get to the folder you need.
After years of this extremely Un-user friendly UI, how,is it that Apple design elegance is asleep,at the wheel here? I send Feedback regularly to no avail.
Then there's the lack of robust formatting. All we get is B/U/I
I won't enumerate the missing features here, but just leave you with whatever the iOS POP bug, it's my sense that the reason this bug happened in the first place is because AppleMail is not taken seriously and thus not designed seriously, upgraded or maintained seriously which creates an environment where this not dnld from server could even happen in the first place. Or if it did, that Apple had in place the resources and man power to fix it promptly.
AppleMail feels an unwanted step-child. OS X and worse iOS versions.
With how our lives revolve around our email, how is it that Apple doesn't have the premiere award winning marvel email client?
That's at the heart of the problem. No commitment, no vision, no pride in ownership.
And I've looked for the killer app replacement but not found it yet.
Apple, please wake up and make AppleMail all it can be!