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Deacon-Blues

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Can someone please explain Apple Music to me? I have been using it for years and I am exhausted with it messing with my library. I organize everything perfectly on my computer, fixing images and tags and everything. I turn off sync. Then I use a cable to manually load my collection on my phone. Turn sync back on and bam! Music is completely f***ed up. First of all, all music files are deleted off my phone and are only in the cloud. So I had to re-download them in Apple Music, and I have to do that album by album because there's no f***ing 'download all' option. I used to be able to create a playlist and put everything on it, then click to download that playlist but now I can't do that anymore. So it keeps deleting all my f***ing files so I guess I have to stream everything? There are some things I add to my library from Apple Music that I do not own. I don't mind streaming those. But it will not stop f***ing with my files that I have loaded onto the phone. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks.
 
It’s basically a result of Apple optimizing the way it seems to store music on its servers. This is why album cover art changes randomly, single tracks in an album turn to live versions, non-remastered versions are replaced with the remastered tracks, compilations get split into single tracks from various other sources instead of remaining one album, whole albums and even bands vanish from playlists. The list is endless. Even yesterday I rebuilt my “retro” playlist and as soon as the tracks from AM landed in the playlist, they started changing which album they’re from.

I love AM a lot, prefer it to Spotify, love the sound, mastering, Spatial Audio, integration with AirPods and Sonos, even though the way playlists and UpNext on iOS are handled is nightmarish — but the way they mess up artwork and sources is really annoying if you care the slightest about curated content.
 
Apple Music and manually syncing via USB are mutually exclusive. If you use Apple Music, it will eliminate anything you've manually synced.
 
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I have over 180 playlists on my Apple Music app, and all of it is purchased music. But one playlist is somehow eliminated every few months. It’s easy enough to rebuild it, but it nags on me how often it has to be done. A friend told me it’s all administered on Apple’s servers, but why? I just got the largest capacity iCloud storage subscription earlier this year.
 
Apple Music and manually syncing via USB are mutually exclusive. If you use Apple Music, it will eliminate anything you've manually synced.
Well this sucks to hear. I really do like Apple Music but it is a huge b to use in conjunction with a ripped library. I guess the fight will go on. Looks like I’m not the only one dealing with this.
 
My issue on Apple Music is with the option to sort alphabetically by Artist.

As you can see, its clearly not working and it’s driving me nuts.

Example in the screenshot :

‘Uriah Heep’
‘Big Amos’
‘Marie Laforet’


How tf can i fix this lol besides having to manually arrange them in a custom order
 

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Until Apple offers the capability to ring-fence my locally sync'd files from Apple Music I won't use it. I am not holding my breath.
 
My issue on Apple Music is with the option to sort alphabetically by Artist.

As you can see, its clearly not working and it’s driving me nuts.
If you don't have a Mac - nothing you can do about it.

If you do have a Mac, you can fix it (or at least see why it's happening - you might not be able to "Fix" it with Apple Music; not sure - I use iTunes Match instead)

iOS seems to use the "Album Artist" for sorting, but the "Artist" for displaying. So for example the "Mamma Mia!" album "Sorts" on iOS as though the artist is ABBA, though the actual artist name is displayed. On a Mac you can see that difference.

Best guess for your issue is, that "Big Amos Patton" has the "Sort As" field set to "Patton, Big Amos" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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If you don't have a Mac - nothing you can do about it.

If you do have a Mac, you can fix it (or at least see why it's happening - you might not be able to "Fix" it with Apple Music; not sure - I use iTunes Match instead)

iOS seems to use the "Album Artist" for sorting, but the "Artist" for displaying. So for example the "Mamma Mia!" album "Sorts" on iOS as though the artist is ABBA, though the actual artist name is displayed. On a Mac you can see that difference.

Best guess for your issue is, that "Big Amos Patton" has the "Sort As" field set to "Patton, Big Amos" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
THANK YOU.

I checked on my Mac and I have 30+ songs under the name ‘Various Artist’. Finally I know what was causing thing.

I corrected the name and now it displays correctly on iOS.

Have a good one my friend
 

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Music is driving me nuts. It goes completely against Apple's founding principles of being human-centric and logical.
Talking of logic, I've just bought the app and having great fun with it. I make the music, "bounce" it as an M4a or wav file and then try to import it to Music. Sometimes I get a weird warning saying something like it's in the cloud (which it isn't) and will be deleted off my other devices..... wut???????
I made me as the artist but when I click on me, none of the Logic stuff I've supposedly imported is there.
I try to find it in the Music folder in Finder and have Music / Media and then another Music folder AND an Apple Music folder, and neither seems to match what's in the Music library...... what on earth are they doing, it's pretty simple file organisation and they've completely screwed it up. Unless I'm doing something wrong of course..... 🤣
 
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