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Danorak81

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Hey-it's a long one....!

This year we are getting our children a joint present for Christmas, an entry level iPad (A16) + Pencil for them to share/argue over 😆 We were in the Apple Store today and obviously they were using the Pro and the Pro pencil, which combined with ProCreate, my daughter/s picked up really quickly and loved.

My eldest is 10 and is really into her artwork-and this is to kinda' digitally add to her skill set. My youngest is 7 and just likes to draw. I spoke to two Apple Store advisors, and one said to me that an almost identical Apple Pencil can be found for around £20 on Amazon (skeptical), but the other guy who was demoing the iPad with the Pro said that a 1st Gen second hand Pencil could be had quite cheap from eBay.

What my daughter really grasped was the sensitivity of the Pro-Pencil and she picked it up straight away. I like this, and feel that not having this as an option would be a backwards step now that she's used it and liked it.

What are peoples thoughts on (what I believe to be) a 2022 second hand Pencil? Am I right in thinking this does have the pressure sensitivity we're looking for? And what benefits/other features in relation to functionality might it bring over a third party pen or a newer model? I know it is charged via cable and is not magnetic, but to start off with, I'm ok with that. I can still buy the first Gen new for around £99, but a current pencil with USB-C is only £79; I'm guessing this is a reduced spec? Aaaaannnnnnd, am I right in thinking it will require replacement tips?

A lot of questions I know, but the iPad in itself is expensive, so I want to make sure that with the Pencil, I'm getting it right.

TIA!
Dan
 
The A16 iPad is only compatible with the 1st gen Apple Pencil and the USB-C Apple Pencil. The 2nd gen Apple Pencil and Apple Pencil Pro will not work with it. The 1st gen Apple Pencil has a Lightning connector, so you would need this adapter in order to pair and charge it. The 1st gen supports pressure sensitivity and does not have a magnet to attach it to the iPad. The USB-C pencil does have a magnet but does not support pressure sensitivity.

As far as I know, no third-party pencils support pressure sensitivity. So if that's something you really want, the 1st gen is pretty much your only option. Otherwise, a cheaper third-party pencil wouldn't be much different than the USB-C one.

iPad / Apple Pencil Compatibility:

Apple Pencil Comparison Chart:

Alternatives:
 
All the information in the above post is correct as far as I know. To clarify though, there are pressure sensitive third party styluses but they use a workaround to achieve it, so they aren't as good as Apple's native Pencil 1st gen.
 
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Thank you for the comprehensive reply @BigBlur.

I think I'm settling on a new 1st Gen. Lots of pre-owned on eBay in good condition, but I can't tell what the battery is like from a picture, and lots have one or both adaptors missing etc. I'll pay a bit more for a new one, but at least it'll have everything I need and will be fresh out of the box.

The MacWorld comparison table was very handy-so many features available on the new Pencil-guess that's something they can aim for in the distant future when it's time to upgrade the iPad!

Thanks for both of your input, much appreciated.

Dan
 
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