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Apple Releases Second Public Beta of macOS Ventura 13.5

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Apple today released the second beta of macOS Ventura 13.5 to its public beta testing group, allowing the general public to try out the software ahead of its official launch. The macOS Ventura 13.5 public beta comes a few days after Apple provided the second beta to developers.

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Public beta testers can download the macOS 13.5 Ventura update from the Software Update section of the System Preferences app after installing the proper profile from Apple's beta software website.

There is no word as of yet on what's included in macOS Ventura 13.5, and no notable new features were found in the developer betas.

We're expecting to see Apple unveil macOS 14 in just a few days at WWDC, and macOS 13.5 should be one of the last updates to Ventura that will tide users over until the public release of macOS 14 later this year.

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Any clues in the sourcecode(?) on a replacement for a 2020 iMac 27" that is now 34 months old?
 
bigheaddoug said:
I am curious if anyone thinks MacOS 14 will bring any changes to Stage Manager. What say ye?
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I don't know about Stage Manager, but there will undoubtably be gratuitous changes that make it look more like iOS. My hope is that the maladroit manager that approved the change from System Preferences to System Settings was canned and Apple will recover their senses and revert it back.
 
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rpmurray said:
I don't know about Stage Manager, but there will undoubtably be gratuitous changes that make it look more like iOS. My hope is that the maladroit manager that approved the change from System Preferences to System Settings was canned and Apple will recover their senses and revert it back.
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System Settings could do with a few minor tweaks, but is easy to adjust to.
 
I'm not sure if it's related but I guess I have chosen the wrong time to download an older macOS installer for a bootable flash drive... It's taking way longer than usual...
 
No SDK notes for MacOS 13.5 beta 2
iOS 16.6 beta 2 (20G5037d) - May 31, 2023
iPadOS 16.6 beta 2 (20G5037d) - May 31, 2023
macOS 13.5 beta 2 (22G5038d) - May 31, 2023
watchOS 9.6 beta 2 (20U5538d) - May 31, 2023
tvOS 16.6 beta 2 (20M5538d) - May 31, 2023
 
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MacOS 13.5 beta 2 (22G5038d)
  • Safari Version 16.6 (18615.3.5.11.2)
  • System Firmware Version: 8422.140.32 (M1 based Macs)
  • Darwin Kernel Version 22.6.0: Mon May 22 20:21:07 PDT 2023; root:xnu-8796.140.17.505.3~3/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
MacOS 13.5 beta 1 (22G5027e)
  • Safari Version 16.6 (18615.3.3.11.1)
  • System Firmware Version: 8422.140.18.0.2 (M1 based Macs)
  • Darwin Kernel Version 22.6.0: Mon May 8 23:10:14 PDT 2023; root:xnu-8796.140.12.505.1~5/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
 
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13.4 broke 100 and 120fps video in FCP. Hoping this fixes that issue which is meh for me but wtf for others.
 
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Sorry for reposting this, but is there any way to install a macOS beta without first logging in with one's AppleID? What if a beta contains a nasty bug that deletes data stored in iCloud, an then that deletion is propagated? (or worse, a bug subtly corrupts iCloud data in ways that are not immediately apparent) If not, how to manage this concern about cloud data integrity when running beta software?
 
xmach said:
Sorry for reposting this, but is there any way to install a macOS beta without first logging in with one's AppleID? What if a beta contains a nasty bug that deletes data stored in iCloud, an then that deletion is propagated? (or worse, a bug subtly corrupts iCloud data in ways that are not immediately apparent) If not, how to manage this concern about cloud data integrity when running beta software?
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There is nothing reported with some bug deleting data stored in iCloud this far along with Ventura. You also can't install a dev or PB beta without the use of an Apple ID now. The terminal commands are disabled.
 
MacsRgr8 said:
TBH, I had completely forgotten about Stage Manager... I played with it on my iMac and iPad for a few weeks when it was available.. then due to it being annoying disabled it and never looked at it again.
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Same. Maybe gave it a month or two of really trying, but various annoyances just got me to turn it off and I just never went back.
 
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xmach said:
Sorry for reposting this, but is there any way to install a macOS beta without first logging in with one's AppleID? What if a beta contains a nasty bug that deletes data stored in iCloud, an then that deletion is propagated? (or worse, a bug subtly corrupts iCloud data in ways that are not immediately apparent) If not, how to manage this concern about cloud data integrity when running beta software?
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Easy. Don't run beta software on your main Mac. I don't mean to be glib, but these are the risks you take when you run a beta. Bugs not only happen, but they're expected.
 
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rpmurray said:
I don't know about Stage Manager, but there will undoubtably be gratuitous changes that make it look more like iOS. My hope is that the maladroit manager that approved the change from System Preferences to System Settings was canned and Apple will recover their senses and revert it back.
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Every time I open settings I cringe right now, it's so laggy and choppy it's absurd. The core settings app should not be the thing with absolutely abysmal performance issues. It's sloppy AF, I'm amazed they let Ventura ship like that
 
I'm still on Monterey.. didn't find any compelling reasons to upgrade to Ventura. Looks like they added some new context menu items and called it a new OS
 
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TBH, I had completely forgotten about Stage Manager... I played with it on my iMac and iPad for a few weeks when it was available.. then due to it being annoying disabled it and never looked at it again.
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Anyone else seeing Time Machine backups fail on this release? In my case they live on a Synology NAS and no backups have completed since I went to PB 2.

They all fail with "Time Machine couldn’t verify your backups."
 
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