Apple Reportedly 'Passed Over' DeepSeek as Apple Intelligence Partner

[MacRumors]

Apple in recent months "passed over" the Chinese artificial intelligence company DeepSeek, according to The Information.

DeepSeek has garnered significant media attention over the past few weeks, as it developed an artificial intelligence model at a lower cost and with reduced power consumption compared to competitors. However, the U.S. and some other countries have moved to ban DeepSeek on government devices due to privacy concerns.

Apple is required to work with a local Chinese company to develop artificial intelligence models for devices sold in China. The report said Apple had targeted Baidu as its partner last year, but Apple eventually decided that Baidu did not meet its standards, leading it to assess models from other companies in recent months.

The report said Apple has assessed models developed by Alibaba, Tencent, and ByteDance, and it appears to be moving forward on a partnership with Alibaba at this time. Apple and Alibaba have submitted a first set of artificial intelligence features that they co-developed to China's cyberspace regulator for approval, the report said.

Apple Intelligence will gain support for additional languages this year, including Chinese, according to Apple. The next set of new languages are coming in an April software update. However, this Chinese language support might be limited to countries outside of China until if and when Apple Intelligence is approved to launch there.

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[orbital~debris]

Sounds like Apple made a sensible assessment that lines up with the shady practices purportedly employed by DeepSeek in service of rivalling established AI players.

 

[brofkand]

Apple Intelligence is such a dumpster fire right now, they need all the help they can get.

 

[Quasselstripper]

Wow, crazy, why don’t they acquire DeepSeek? Apparently it’s a cheap company so far?

 

[sw1tcher]

The report said Apple has assessed models developed by Alibaba, Tencent, and ByteDance, and it appears to be moving forward on a partnership with Alibaba at this time.

In China, AI will stand for Alibaba Intelligence, not Apple Intelligence

 

[cjsuk]

Apple Intelligence is such a dumpster fire right now, they need all the help they can get.

All AI solutions are a dumpster fire. Some are just burning dumpsters full of creosote and some are burning dumpsters full of cat crap.

 

[hagar]

It’s crazy how bad Apple Intelligence is. Google and OpenAI are light years ahead. No amount of marketing can disguise that.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

Why just not let the end-user decide what, if any, outside AI service their phone connects to? It could easily be an API.

 

[hagar]

All AI solutions are a dumpster fire. Some are just burning dumpsters full of creosote and some are burning dumpsters full of cat crap.

They are quite amazing if you know how to use them.

 

[brofkand]

All AI solutions are a dumpster fire. Some are just burning dumpsters full of creosote and some are burning dumpsters full of cat crap.

None of them are truly intelligent - that is plainly obvious to people who use them. But there are absolutely levels of usefulness, and right now Apple Intelligence is firmly at the bottom of that pile.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

They are quite amazing if you know how to use them.

The only way to win is to not play.

I'll consider it useful when companies start standing behind the output, instead of just shrugging their shoulders...and not a minute before.

 

[sw1tcher]

Why just not let the end-user decide what, if any, outside AI service their phone connects to? It could easily be an API.

Apple wants to force AI on us

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so that they can, at some point in the near future, monetize it. It's all about Services.

 

[brofkand]

The only way to win is to not play.

I'll consider it useful when companies start standing behind the output, instead of just shrugging their shoulders...and not a minute before.

Even Encyclopedia Britannica had errors and needed to be updated, so if you want to play ostrich to the revolution going around you because you're a luddite - more power to you.

 

[Howard2k]

They are quite amazing if you know how to use them.

AI saves me hours and hours each week these days. Some wins are bigger than others, and there are some misses, but the boost in productivity even from current gen AI is huge, for me.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

AI saves me hours and hours each week these days. Some wins are bigger than others, and there are some misses, but the boost in productivity even from current gen AI is huge, for me.

I'm not allowed to use it for work, at all. My company has all AI providers blocked at the firewall, and we get disciplined if were caught using it without specific authorization. Too big of a chance of PPI leaks and errors from using data that didn't come directly from the source.

Clinical pharmacy.

Even Encyclopedia Britannica had errors and needed to be updated, so if you want to play ostrich to the revolution going around you because you're a luddite - more power to you.

Gladly! Just like you never use an encyclopedia for research, Britannica or otherwise, I won't use an LLM. I just go to the source, and skip the wasteful middleman.

Some AI is useful, in some fields. LLMs suck.

 

[Howard2k]

I'm not allowed to use it for work, at all. My company has all AI providers blocked at the firewall, and we get disciplined if were caught using it without specific authorization. Too big of a chance of PPI leaks and errors from using data that didn't come directly from the source.

Clinical pharmacy.



Gladly!

Some AI is useful, in some fields. LLMs suck.

We used sandboxed AI, corporately. That way customer data stays local. Pretty much every Fortune 500 does this but I don't know affordable it is for smaller organizations.

 

[Madhatter32]

Why is Apple cozying up with Chinese Communist Party proxies to provide artificial intelligence? That does not seem very intelligent at all.

 

[Howard2k]

Why is Apple cozying up with Chinese Communist Party proxies to provide artificial intelligence? That does not seem very intelligent at all.

...In China.

Outside of China they use their own internal AI models and can, if the user opts in, use OpenAI.

 

[cjsuk]

They are quite amazing if you know how to use them.

I know how to use them. I know how they work.

They are not amazing. They are a gun in the hand of a monkey mostly.

 

[nostradumbass]

Apple Intelligence is such a dumpster fire right now, they need all the help they can get.

Apple’s language model is the best one you can use for efficiency on a phone and it is private. You can use it to makes calls to ChatGPT if you want more power in the cloud.

You cannot run Deepseek or ChatGPT on a phone or a laptop. Anyone claiming they are running Deepseek on a laptop or desktop are running the distills which are Qwen or Llama architectures.

 

[9081094]

The report said Apple had targeted Baidu as its partner last year, but Apple eventually decided that Baidu did not meet its standards, leading it to assess models from other companies in recent months.

I’m curious who at Apple has set the qualifying standards on Siri 🤭

 

[lkrupp]

It’s crazy how bad Apple Intelligence is. Google and OpenAI are light years ahead. No amount of marketing can disguise that.

Dream on.

 

[yeahtyeaht]

Why is Apple cozying up with Chinese Communist Party proxies to provide artificial intelligence? That does not seem very intelligent at all.

The irony of such statements is that China can't do much with your data.

You'd better be careful what information you give to the US government. They can do a lot with it and cause you serious harm.

I can't take this Chinese communist blah blah anymore. It's time to wake up and stop parroting everything. Build your own mind. Or stay, how you would say, "not very intelligent"

 

[9081094]

Dream on.

Well, he has got a point and if you don’t believe it watch this:

 

[HazeAndHahmahneez]

Yeah goog light years ahead in data mining and privacy violations, you can have that, buddy, I’ll stick with Apple Intelligence, thank you very much (the intelligent choice)!