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Apple Seeds macOS Ventura 13.5 Release Candidate to Developers

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Apple today seeded the release candidate version of macOS Ventura 13.5 to developers for testing purposes, with the beta introduced a week after the release of the fifth beta.

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Registered developers can download the beta through the Apple Developer Center and after the appropriate profile is installed, with the betas available through the Software Update mechanism in System Settings.

No notable features have been found in macOS 13.5, so it's not yet clear what's included in the update.

With macOS Sonoma now in development and slated for launch this fall, Apple's work on macOS 13 will soon be wrapping up. macOS 13.5 is likely to be one of the final updates to macOS Ventura.

Article Link: Apple Seeds macOS Ventura 13.5 Release Candidate to Developers
 
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I'm so jazzed for this update! I love macOS and this is likely going to be one of the best-ever versions of Ventura.

I also hate the (c) right now, it is so messy. I hope the GM comes later this week!
 
Sure hope MacOS 13.5 solves the problems that showed up in 13.4 and 13.4.1.

I have reported over a dozen Preview crashes with 13.4 and 13.4.1. I have also started having an issue with old unrequested images and documents opening in both Pages and Preview. For example, take a screenshot with the option to send the image to Preview. Not only does the screenshot appear in Preview but one or two other images also frequently appear.

Because of this new problem I have become very careful to make certain that all files have been closed before I exit Preview. Unfortunately, that precaution doesn't seem to make a difference.

I finally booted into internet recovery, wiped my drive and reinstalled 13.4.1. Unfortunately, no difference. Same issues even on a bare system.

I have also started seeing cannot find bluetooth keyboard notifications on startup with MacOS 13. Fortunately, the Magic keyboard will come to life after several key presses. Interestingly, the notification will often remain on the screen even after the keyboard has connected.

System: 27 inch iMac with Intel i9 processor and a Radeon Pro Vega 48 gpu.
 
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MacRumors said:
macOS 13.5 is likely to be one of the final updates to macOS Ventura.
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I really doubt that.

They are still updating Monterey and Big Sur. Unlikely Venturas will stop any time soon. I don't think Sonoma is anywhere near finished but when it is finally released the updates to Ventura will keep going.

For example when Monterey was released on October 25, 2021, Big Sur was up to version 11.6.1. There were many Big Sur updates after that and now we are getting 11.7.9 nearly 2 years later.

A more likely scenario is that when Sonoma is released, they may slow down on the Big Sur releases, not Ventura releases (or Monterey either).
 
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azpc said:
Sure hope MacOS 13.5 solves the problems that showed up in 13.4 and 13.4.1.

I have reported over a dozen Preview crashes with 13.4 and 13.4.1. I have also started having an issue with old unrequested images and documents opening in both Pages and Preview. For example, take a screenshot with the option to send the image to Preview. Not only does the screenshot appear in Preview but one or two other images also frequently appear.

Because of this new problem I have become very careful to make certain that all files have been closed before I exit Preview. Unfortunately, that precaution doesn't seem to make a difference.

I finally booted into internet recovery, wiped my drive and reinstalled 13.4.1. Unfortunately, no difference. Same issues even on a bare system.

I have also started seeing cannot find bluetooth keyboard notifications on startup with MacOS 13. Fortunately, the Magic keyboard will come to life after several key presses. Interestingly, the notification will often remain on the screen even after the keyboard has connected.

System: 27 inch iMac with Intel i9 processor and a Radeon Pro Vega 48 gpu.
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I had the Preview app crashing on 13.4.1 too. I was using it to view a picture one time, but it suddenly froze and wasn’t responding at all. I tried using Force Quit, and it still won’t close for some reason. I had to restart my Mac and it was finally fixed.
But this was still very strange.
 
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FishyFish said:
I'm so jazzed for this update! I love macOS and this is likely going to be one of the best-ever versions of Ventura.

I also hate the (c) right now, it is so messy. I hope the GM comes later this week!
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What’s ‘messy’ about the (c) update. All it did was patch a security hole in WebKit, that’s it. People claiming it did other things are just outliers that probably had some lurking corruption to begin with.
 
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It seems Ventura has a lot of issues with images and video
Personally I really can't stand Photos: it's giving a lot of problems not only to me
I have to "carefully" avoid to use its own tools because as soon as I do any modification on a RAW photo it blurs

To mention just one, Finder doesn't remember my favorites
I'm on a brand new MacStudio where I've been few times tempted to erase all and install Monterey

Has anyone seen if Photos has been fixed?
 
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I upgraded this morning and I've been having issues all day with Safari duplicating open windows with the Tab Group I'm using. I'll just end up with my Work tab group open on 2-3 different windows somehow and I don't know what's causing it. If I minimise one it can sometimes get in a state where if I click the Safari icon in the Dock it just opens another window of the same tab group instead of just opening the maximised one, but it only happens sometimes.
 
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roncron said:
The most recent version of macOS has been running well on my MBP and MBAs. The early versions were a bit frustrating for me. Apple seems to prioritize features over stability in the early versions of a new major OS, then gradually improves stability over the next 8-9 months.
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Agreed. However, anecdotally-speaking, the outstanding list of old bugs not fixed seems to be growing and Apple shows little inclination to focus there. I'm still seeing bugs first discussed in Catalina. I'm happy to be incorrect about this.
 
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I've been really happy with Ventura on my 2019 mbp. Went from Catalina right to Ventura and it's been great. I use this Mac about 10hr a day for heavy imaging and graphics work. Probably won't upgrade to the next one until x.3 or so. Will be nice to ride out the stability of Venturas final releases.
 
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hoodafoo said:
I did the same.. what was the reason? Nothing compelling or just happy with Monterey?
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Bugs. My macbook pro is docked with a thunderbolt dock, and early versions of Ventura were horrible. Hard kernel panics, USB dropouts. Monterey was already working well so I saw no reason to upgrade. Perhaps 13.4/13.5 have resolved many of the issues, but I had no compelling reason to upgrade to test it out.

I will test Sonoma on an external disk and see how it performs...
 
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