Apple Seeds tvOS 13 Beta 10 to Developers

[MacRumors]

Apple today seeded 10th beta of an upcoming tvOS 13 update to developers, one week after seeding the ninth beta and more than two months after unveiling the tvOS 13 software at the Worldwide Developers Conference.

Designed for the fourth and fifth-generation Apple TV models, the new tvOS 13 developer beta can be downloaded onto the Apple TV via a profile that's installed using Xcode.

tvOS 13 introduces an updated Home screen aimed at making it easier to discover new content. Apps are now able to play full-screen video previews on the Home screen, similar to Netflix.

Multi-user support is available for the first time, letting more than one profile exist on the Apple TV so each family member can have their own customized Apple TV interface with separate recommendations, music playlists, and Watch Now lists.

Switching between profiles can be done with the new Control Center, which offers up profiles, the time and date, search, a Now Playing widget, AirPlay controls, and a sleep option.

tvOS 13 gets the Apple TV ready for Apple Arcade, Apple's new gaming service that's coming to the Apple TV, iOS, iPadOS, and macOS later this year. Apple Arcade will offer unlimited access to more than 100 new and exclusive games, for one subscription fee.

As part of the Apple Arcade preparations, Apple has implemented support for the Xbox Wireless Bluetooth Controller and the PlayStation DualShock 4 Controller, both of which can be connected to an Apple TV over Bluetooth.

There are new under the sea themed screensavers created in partnership with the BBC Natural History Unit, which also created "Blue Planet." There's also a new Picture-in-Picture feature. Picture-in-Picture lets you continue to watch TV shows or movies while using a different app, adjusting settings, or otherwise navigating through the tvOS 13 operating system.

tvOS 13 is available to registered developers and public beta testers at this time and will see an official public launch in the fall.

Article Link: Apple Seeds tvOS 13 Beta 10 to Developers

 

[weez999]

but will they improve the usability of that horrendous remote??? That swipe "feature" is so bad on so many levels.

 

[jezbd1997]

but will they improve the usability of that horrendous remote??? That swipe "feature" is so bad on so many levels.

Only reason I'm still using ATV 3rd gens. I saw you are too
Was hoping for a refresh today with a new remote, hopefully next month..

 

[Eorlas]

but will they improve the usability of that horrendous remote??? That swipe "feature" is so bad on so many levels.

are you talking about it being a small touchpad to slide across apps? ive never had an issue with it and the atv 4k.

 

[BJMRamage]

I wish other manufacturers would steal the remote design....it is simplistically glorious.

...actually not kidding. it is so easy to use. if you can use an iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad, or have used an Apple laptop you can use that remote.

 

[Robert.Walter]

I wish other manufacturers would steal the remote design....it is simplistically glorious.

...actually not kidding. it is so easy to use. if you can use an iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad, or have used an Apple laptop you can use that remote.

Xcept w YouTube app, because google makes it kinda suck.

 

[TacoChowder]

but will they improve the usability of that horrendous remote??? That swipe "feature" is so bad on so many levels.

You can tap the sides of the touchpad to go one unit over, discovered that accidentally one day

 

[0920872]

I wish other manufacturers would steal the remote design....it is simplistically glorious.

...actually not kidding. it is so easy to use. if you can use an iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad, or have used an Apple laptop you can use that remote.

To me this remote has been the ultimate symbol of Apple's "design" over function madness. I cannot have a single evening when my dog doesn't pause the show I'm watching or when it doesn't fast forward when the remote slips between cushions or when my toddler steals it and does the same from a room away. I ended up very much preferring the low-tech, bulky, point-to-operate Roku remote control

 

[PastaPrimav]

So, does it work yet, or still a disaster?

 

[Eorlas]

To me this remote has been the ultimate symbol of Apple's "design" over function madness. I cannot have a single evening when my dog doesn't pause the show I'm watching or when it doesn't fast forward when the remote slips between cushions or when my toddler steals it and does the same from a room away. I ended up very much preferring the low-tech, bulky, point-to-operate Roku remote control

absolutely none of these issues indicate a design flaw.

not to mention i can use tthe remote supplied wiht my tv to control tthis system as well, which would solve *your* issue.

apple's design here is entirely functional, your inability to get a grip on your environment bears no relevance.

 

[PhyrePhox]

Build 17J5579a

 

[BJMRamage]

To me this remote has been the ultimate symbol of Apple's "design" over function madness. I cannot have a single evening when my dog doesn't pause the show I'm watching or when it doesn't fast forward when the remote slips between cushions or when my toddler steals it and does the same from a room away. I ended up very much preferring the low-tech, bulky, point-to-operate Roku remote control

So, this can happen with any remote that has buttons. It has with us with a dog or cushion or toddler or kid

The only other thing is a remote that MUST be aimed to get the signal and with my boxes hidden from view I prefer the non-aimed-TV remotes that many have.

And for those saying the remote is too easy to invert and push a wrong button, that has happened with some of my regular TV remotes. I think a slightly weighted option, angles, or something could help though.

 

[unobtainium]

Is this coming to the public on the 19th along with iOS 13?

 

[Lancetx]

Is this coming to the public on the 19th along with iOS 13?

I haven't been able to find anything official today from Apple in their press releases giving a firm release date for tvOS 13. I assume it'll be at least by September 30th when iOS 13.1 and iPadOS are available, but who knows.

 

[btrach144]

Public beta of 17J5579a is available as of 10:00 AM PDT.

 

[neander]

Starting to feel like a real TvOS.. its been rough.

 

[GIZBUG]

Starting to feel like a real TvOS.. its been rough.

explain

 

[0920872]

absolutely none of these issues indicate a design flaw.

not to mention i can use tthe remote supplied wiht my tv to control tthis system as well, which would solve *your* issue.

apple's design here is entirely functional, your inability to get a grip on your environment bears no relevance.

You are right. Design flaws don't exist, just "uncontrolled environments."

Seriously, if something is small, omnidirectional, has "perfectly balanced weight", ends awkwardly very similar in appearance, small, and has an infinite scroll button on one end, and is to be used in a dark room where people watch movies, then it will be destined to be:
1) often held inversely
2) fall between cushions
3) pressed accidentally
4) fast forward into your stuff.

Design is about optimizing tools for real life situations...at least for beings without your supreme environmental control.

 

[Eorlas]

You are right. Design flaws don't exist, just "uncontrolled environments."

Seriously, if something is small, omnidirectional, has "perfectly balanced weight", ends awkwardly very similar in appearance, small, and has an infinite scroll button on one end, and is to be used in a dark room where people watch movies, then it will be destined to be:
1) often held inversely
2) fall between cushions
3) pressed accidentally
4) fast forward into your stuff.

Design is about optimizing tools for real life situations...at least for beings without your supreme environmental control.

my remote falls between cushions. to solve this I:
a) dont let it piss me off because i have more important things to care about
b) address it by retrieving it or not laying it on the couch instead of mocking other people about it

i also press buttons accidentally. to solve this I:
a) remember that this happens with other "normal" remotes that i own
b) nothing else

i too hold it in reverse sometimes. to solve this I:
a) remember that other remotes can also be held in odd orientations, and thus is corrected when
b) i realize it and rotate it, as is normal.

the fast forwarding thing i dont generally encounter. actually i mostly struggle sometimes to figure out how to do it properly.

"supreme environmental control" hahah wow. the dynamics of remote control management in your place sound extraordinarily complex.

or i just try to not let these things bother me.

 

[0920872]

First you tell me these are not design flaws at all and suggest that the problem is in my environment. Then you confirm having most of the same issues but are just "not bothered" because you compromise.

To be frank, I'm hardly bothered as I avoid the new apple TV remote as much as I can. Why compromise all the time when I can just use another remote?

This is a symptom of a pervasive problem that affects iPhones and the current Macbook models as well. This is what my post referred to. Why should I pay a premium for increasing compromise, when I can do it for cheap too?