Apple Stops Signing iOS 13.4.1 Following Release of iOS 13.5

[MacRumors]

Following the release of iOS 13.5 on May 20, Apple has stopped signing iOS 13.4.1, which means downgrading to that version of iOS is no longer possible.

iOS 13.4.1 was a minor update that addressed a bug that prevented devices running iOS 13.4 from participating in FaceTime calls with devices running iOS 9.3.6 and earlier.

Apple routinely stops signing older versions of software updates after new releases come out in order to encourage customers to keep their operating systems up to date.

iOS 13.5 is the current publicly available version of iOS, with the update introducing the Exposure Notification API, faster passcode entry when wearing a mask, changes to Group FaceTime, and more.

Apple has also stopped signing iOS 12.4.6 for older devices.

There could soon be another iOS update released as a jailbreaking tool that works with all devices running iOS 11 to iOS 13.5 was released on Sunday.

Article Link: Apple Stops Signing iOS 13.4.1 Following Release of iOS 13.5

 

[Jordan Klein]

Good thing I haven't upgraded yet.

 

[calzon65]

I have always hated that I can't load an old version of IOS. A few years ago, I upgraded to a newer version of IOS but a month later, after Apple stopped signing that old version, I discovered the newer version would no longer work with some of my Bluetooth devices. It was close to 6 months before a subsequent version fixed the problem. If I could have loaded the previous version, I could have waited until the issue was resolved.

 

[BornAgainMac]

The only time I wanted to downgrade was when I wanted to keep one iPad dedicated for 32-bit apps that had a 12.9 inch screen. I have not found replacements for some games that I really enjoyed including on Android. As a workaround, I found an iPad 2 but it was a standard issue 16 GB model so I can't have everything on it. I have an old copy of iTunes and I keep checking for updates. It is disappointing that great app ideas never get updated to run on today's iOS.

 

[juanm]

Apple routinely stops signing older versions of software updates after new releases come out in order to encourage force customers to keep their operating systems up to date.

There you go, I fixed that for you

 

[billk711]

Following the release of iOS 13.5 on May 20, Apple has stopped signing iOS 13.4.1, which means downgrading to that version of iOS is no longer possible.

iOS 13.4.1 was a minor update that addressed a bug that prevented devices running iOS 13.4 from participating in FaceTime calls with devices running iOS 9.3.6 and earlier.

Apple routinely stops signing older versions of software updates after new releases come out in order to encourage customers to keep their operating systems up to date.

iOS 13.5 is the current publicly available version of iOS, with the update introducing the Exposure Notification API, faster passcode entry when wearing a mask, changes to Group FaceTime, and more.

Apple has also stopped signing iOS 12.4.6 for older devices.

There could soon be another iOS update released as a jailbreaking tool that works with all devices running iOS 11 to iOS 13.5 was released on Sunday.

Article Link: Apple Stops Signing iOS 13.4.1 Following Release of iOS 13.5

How dare they, Apple is doomed

 

[Seanm87]

Can someone explain this to me? you can’t “downgrade“ an iOS version. I thought that wasn’t possible?

 

[B4U]

Note to self, go to settings and manually turn off Wi-Fi before connecting to the charger, since the tvOS profile OTA block no longer works on iOS 13...
Never, EVER be a lab animal for these new iOS within the first couple of weeks...

 

[posguy99]

Can someone explain this to me? you can’t “downgrade“ an iOS version. I thought that wasn’t possible?

As long as whatever you want to install is still being signed by Apple, you can install whatever you want.

 

[2013.1]

Only update if the

• number after the second point increases and the
• number after the first point is above zero.

 

[Puppuccino]

I don’t understand this downgrading thing. Apple has always stopped signing a week or two after a new release so the downgrade window has always been very small. Just don’t upgrade if you don’t want to risk it.

 

[saudor]

The only time I wanted to downgrade was when I wanted to keep one iPad dedicated for 32-bit apps that had a 12.9 inch screen. I have not found replacements for some games that I really enjoyed including on Android. As a workaround, I found an iPad 2 but it was a standard issue 16 GB model so I can't have everything on it. I have an old copy of iTunes and I keep checking for updates. It is disappointing that great app ideas never get updated to run on today's iOS.

i actually still have my iPad 2 on 8.4.1 for 32 bit apps and everything else from the nostalgic days of iOS6. The performance is not that far off from my Air 2 on ios13.

 

[JosephAW]

Glad I was able to install 13.4.1 on my iPhone 8 in DFU mode.

 

[TiggrToo]

There you go, I fixed that for you

No you didn't. I'm still on 13.1. Apple haven't forced any updates on me.

 

[Seanm87]

As long as whatever you want to install is still being signed by Apple, you can install whatever you want.

How do you do that then? So if I went to 13.5 how do I go back down (I know I cant now)?

 

[unknown6656]

I have always hated that I can't load an old version of IOS. A few years ago, I upgraded to a newer version of IOS but a month later, after Apple stopped signing that old version, I discovered the newer version would no longer work with some of my Bluetooth devices. It was close to 6 months before a subsequent version fixed the problem. If I could have loaded the previous version, I could have waited until the issue was resolved.

That's why I always save the SHSH2-blobs for all my devices when a new update comes out. With this method I could downgrade all the way back to iOS 7 if I want to...
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How do you do that then? So if I went to 13.5 how do I go back down (I know I cant now)?

1) go to https://tsssaver.1conan.com/
2) save the SHSH2-blobs every time a new version appears (they are a kind of cryptographic signature specific for your device and iOS version)
3) when you want to downgrade download the saved blobs and download the ipsw for the desired iOS version
4) sign the ipsw using the downloaded SHSH2-blobs
5) drag the signed ipsw into iTunes to downgrade

 

[asiga]

Apple routinely stops signing older versions of software updates after new releases come out in order to encourage customers to keep their operating systems up to date.

Saying "in order to encourage" is a big euphemism. A more accurate word would be "force". They actually force users to update, because there's no way to stop nagging screens unless you jailbreak or use DNS blockers to Apple servers.

 

[I7guy]

i actually still have my iPad 2 on 8.4.1 for 32 bit apps and everything else from the nostalgic days of iOS6. The performance is not that far off from my Air 2 on ios13.

Does anything actually work? It's a mixed bag of apps requiring ios 7 and above, or ios 9 and above etc. Then the browser is practically useless on ipad 2 and 8.4.1. Ahhh, the good old days.

 

[saudor]

Does anything actually work? It's a mixed bag of apps requiring ios 7 and above, or ios 9 and above etc. Then the browser is practically useless on ipad 2 and 8.4.1. Ahhh, the good old days.

Some of the newer encryption protocols dont work for HTTPS but otherwise it's quite usable. Reddit works perfect in the "old mode" so that works too (as does macrumors!) Larger, content heavy pages will struggle because of the 512M ram however.

As for apps, it's mostly a non issue since i only keep older version of apps/period specific ones.

That being said, it would have been nice if i kept my ipad 4 as the A6X is such a beast but sold that already. I kept the iPad 2 since it was my first ipad and i won it in a competition during undergrad blah blah blah that sort of deal.

 

[boswald]

Goodbye, 13.4!

 

[JosephAW]

Still on 13.4.1. I guess I should update to the new govmnt mandate update. Won't be long before Apple disables the ability to ignore updates like in Catalina.

 

[simonmet]

This is courage!

(Take that mods).

 

[posguy99]

How do you do that then? So if I went to 13.5 how do I go back down (I know I cant now)?

If the version you want to install is still being signed, download it, then option-click the button, it should ask you what IPSW file to install on the device, and then it installs.