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Apple store infection risk
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I was just commenting to someone the other day about the lack of porn that uses i-devices as props. One would think that iphone porn would do well.
there's plenty of computer porn out there, you have just been looking in the wrong places
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I refuse to touch anything in the apple store. I never pick up any demo units, people are disgusting and don't wash there hands.
Where hands?? There, hands??
Love your avatar. Giggle every time I see it.
There are many, many small bottles of hand-sanitizer about, some even give-aways. Maybe you should suggest that your store install an auto-pump dispenser, near the front door, to be used on entering and exiting?
Germs should not be a reason for failing to touch the goodness that is Apple.
I already knew this, I can tell by the feeling of the devices. How would I sanitize my own iPod touch though? Maybe alcohol-free hand sanitizers? I let many people look at my iPod touch and gets sticky and oily after awhile
How would I sanitize my own iPod touch though? Maybe alcohol-free hand sanitizers? I let many people look at my iPod touch and gets sticky and oily after awhile 
Wow, what a dumb, poorly thought out article.
Every electronics store has people touching stuff, so do toy stores (which are more likely to have snotty nosed kids, so do grocery stores, and movie theaters, and well, pretty much EVERYWHERE the public is.
Every electronics store has people touching stuff, so do toy stores (which are more likely to have snotty nosed kids, so do grocery stores, and movie theaters, and well, pretty much EVERYWHERE the public is.
I agree with the general premise.... wash your hands before and after handling anything that is in the public.
But, really... people really have to chill out. A healthy human with a healthy immune system has very little to worry about. We have all those highly evolved antibodies for a reason. Germs on your hands are there all the time. You even have your own personal colonies growing, which are a good thing because they are territorial and help hinder those "foreign" germs from getting a toe-hold (finger-hold?). Besides, it's not the bad germs on your hands that's a problem, it's when you stick 'em in your eye or mouth (by poking your face with your fingers)
And if you're going to fret the germs you can't easily deal with, then you shouldn't be in the mall at all. Many germs can be passed on when aerosolized (i.e. coughed or sneezed out). Or, can be growing in the buildings ventilation system (Legionnaire's disease).
Do you ever take those mints from the desk at the restaurant? The last trip most of the fingers that have been there before you had taken was to the loo. And how many people there was their hands afterwards.
No - I don't find this unsettling at all.
You want unsettling?? Read up on how they process "processed" chicken. Not the stuff where you can identify chicken parts, but the chicken nuggets, patties, etc. I can guarantee that you will never ever eat another processed chicken thing again.... it is that disgusting.
Update: These sensationalistic news stories always annoy me, big time. They take ordinary risks - life is a risk - and then spin the facts to deliberately scare people just to sell more copies, or more page hits. So now they have a bunch of people who think that a) An Apple store is cesspool of malignant malforming germs, and then by implication b) the rest of the world is safe.
It would have been much more useful to encourage people to wash their hands often. But that is boring, and doesn't sell papers, and so they resort to scare tactics. OK - how many of you wash the outside of the milk container, or chicken package, when you get it home?
Think about this .... Most people who buy milk have children at home, and children are little concentrated germ factories. Parents have these germs all over their hands. They pick up a carton (transferring their germs), and put it back 'cause it's close to the due date, or it's not chocolate enough, etc etc. You pick it up and take it home. No big problem yet. Just like all the other things you touch in public. Except that you often use milk while preparing food. Everytime you pickup the milk carton and then touch a kitchen utensil or food preparation surface.... you are transferring germs from the wee germ factory.
How about the chicken package? The meat is packaged in a facility that is constantly fighting E Coli, Salmonella, etc etc. Usually they are successful, and if tiny bit gets into the food it's killed anyway while cooking. But what about the bad stuff that was on the outside of the package? (underneath all those cold and flu germs added by people pawing of the poultry display looking for the good deals) - You pick the chicken package up, with your fingers, and carefully place it on the plate that you will be careful to not let contaminate the rest of the dinner with it's bad "raw chicken" voodoo. But you've got some bad voodoo on your fingers by touching the outside the package.
My two "scare scenarios" above are not really that scary, for healthy people, 'cause we have antibodies. Finely tuned, heavily evolved, hard working, anti-bodies. There is a good argument that a lot of the asthma and allergies popping up now in adults is because they grew up not playing in dirt. They were too clean as kids, so their antibodies never matured properly. Ever wonder why Polio struck the US harder than most other countries at the beginning of the 20th century? One compelling argument is that Americans at the time were too clean... If you look at where Polio struck, it's a very good argument. The more modern (and clean) a country was, the more likely you were to find Polio. It wasn't an absolute thing, just the probability.
So quit fretting, and wash your hands often with ordinary soap and water (that anti-bacterial stuff is actually worse for you). And relax.
But, really... people really have to chill out. A healthy human with a healthy immune system has very little to worry about. We have all those highly evolved antibodies for a reason. Germs on your hands are there all the time. You even have your own personal colonies growing, which are a good thing because they are territorial and help hinder those "foreign" germs from getting a toe-hold (finger-hold?). Besides, it's not the bad germs on your hands that's a problem, it's when you stick 'em in your eye or mouth (by poking your face with your fingers)
And if you're going to fret the germs you can't easily deal with, then you shouldn't be in the mall at all. Many germs can be passed on when aerosolized (i.e. coughed or sneezed out). Or, can be growing in the buildings ventilation system (Legionnaire's disease).
Do you ever take those mints from the desk at the restaurant? The last trip most of the fingers that have been there before you had taken was to the loo. And how many people there was their hands afterwards.
No - I don't find this unsettling at all.
You want unsettling?? Read up on how they process "processed" chicken. Not the stuff where you can identify chicken parts, but the chicken nuggets, patties, etc. I can guarantee that you will never ever eat another processed chicken thing again.... it is that disgusting.
Update: These sensationalistic news stories always annoy me, big time. They take ordinary risks - life is a risk - and then spin the facts to deliberately scare people just to sell more copies, or more page hits. So now they have a bunch of people who think that a) An Apple store is cesspool of malignant malforming germs, and then by implication b) the rest of the world is safe.
It would have been much more useful to encourage people to wash their hands often. But that is boring, and doesn't sell papers, and so they resort to scare tactics. OK - how many of you wash the outside of the milk container, or chicken package, when you get it home?
Think about this .... Most people who buy milk have children at home, and children are little concentrated germ factories. Parents have these germs all over their hands. They pick up a carton (transferring their germs), and put it back 'cause it's close to the due date, or it's not chocolate enough, etc etc. You pick it up and take it home. No big problem yet. Just like all the other things you touch in public. Except that you often use milk while preparing food. Everytime you pickup the milk carton and then touch a kitchen utensil or food preparation surface.... you are transferring germs from the wee germ factory.
How about the chicken package? The meat is packaged in a facility that is constantly fighting E Coli, Salmonella, etc etc. Usually they are successful, and if tiny bit gets into the food it's killed anyway while cooking. But what about the bad stuff that was on the outside of the package? (underneath all those cold and flu germs added by people pawing of the poultry display looking for the good deals) - You pick the chicken package up, with your fingers, and carefully place it on the plate that you will be careful to not let contaminate the rest of the dinner with it's bad "raw chicken" voodoo. But you've got some bad voodoo on your fingers by touching the outside the package.
My two "scare scenarios" above are not really that scary, for healthy people, 'cause we have antibodies. Finely tuned, heavily evolved, hard working, anti-bodies. There is a good argument that a lot of the asthma and allergies popping up now in adults is because they grew up not playing in dirt. They were too clean as kids, so their antibodies never matured properly. Ever wonder why Polio struck the US harder than most other countries at the beginning of the 20th century? One compelling argument is that Americans at the time were too clean... If you look at where Polio struck, it's a very good argument. The more modern (and clean) a country was, the more likely you were to find Polio. It wasn't an absolute thing, just the probability.
So quit fretting, and wash your hands often with ordinary soap and water (that anti-bacterial stuff is actually worse for you). And relax.
You must get sick a lot since your body has no germs to practice on. Washing your hands in a public restroom is almost completely negated the moment you touch the door handle to leave...but good luck with your sterile lifestyle.
Mmmmm, no, you use the paper towel to open the door, and discard it afterwards.
Or you hit the power door, with your elbow.
Thank you. You've summarized my beliefs very well. One should observe basic hygienic practices, but there are way too many people out there who have gotten overly "sterilizer happy". It's silly to think that germs can be avoided 100%. They can't. That's why we have an immune system.
And don't even ask me to count the times for how many times I found dried up mucus on the iPods and iPhones.
I just ate, and who asked you??
