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Narked Diver

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is it worth buying an Apple TV 4K for a no HDR 4K TV?

I am currently using an Apple TV 4 with it
 
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Movie purchases are 4K via my Sony 4K non hdr tv
Some Netflix is 4K
I think high speed hdmi cable helps.
I’ve delayed hdr tv upgrade for a few years yet though enjoying ap4k tv
Early episodes Star Trek. Tv series were 4 k Prob best visual example via Netflix I’ve viewed yet.
My 1st movie via iTunes the house is amazing ‘I got it’
 
unless you are finding you experience with the ATV4 slow, I would stick with what you have.
 
It's worth upgrading for one very big thing - The Auto Switching for frame rate. Seeing a film in its correct frame rate without panning judder is the best upgrade for any rather juddery Apple TV.
Plus 4K film will look amazing whether you have HDR or not.
 
It's worth upgrading for one very big thing - The Auto Switching for frame rate. Seeing a film in its correct frame rate without panning judder is the best upgrade for any rather juddery Apple TV.
Plus 4K film will look amazing whether you have HDR or not.
Only if your TV supports it. Many displays have a fixed 60hz cycle rate so even an 24hz signal will re-introduce judder when displayed. And on the other extreme, some TVs can detect 24hz content within a 60hz signal and adjust to a constant time slice (w/o introducing frame interpolation).
In general if your TV has a 120hz or 240hz panel you should be good for 24hz content, but the optimal settings on the TV and source input may vary.
Just do some upfront research on your model TV since YMMV with 24hz.
 
Only if your TV supports it. Many displays have a fixed 60hz cycle rate so even an 24hz signal will re-introduce judder when displayed. And on the other extreme, some TVs can detect 24hz content within a 60hz signal and adjust to a constant time slice (w/o introducing frame interpolation).
In general if your TV has a 120hz or 240hz panel you should be good for 24hz content, but the optimal settings on the TV and source input may vary.
Just do some upfront research on your model TV since YMMV with 24hz.

WOW! Nothing like putting water on the fire and confusing anybody and everybody!

Well my Panasonic TV is working beautifully with the ATV 4K, a 12 year old BANG&OLUFSEN DVD player, my 20 year old Panasonic VHS video recorder and now a Panasonic 4K UHD BluRay player.
All superb!
 
WOW! Nothing like putting water on the fire and confusing anybody and everybody!

Well my Panasonic TV is working beautifully with the ATV 4K, a 12 year old BANG&OLUFSEN DVD player, my 20 year old Panasonic VHS video recorder and now a Panasonic 4K UHD BluRay player.
All superb!
It seems that you have mostly higher end equipment. These limitations would be more common on entry level or older hardware. I would just hate to have him upgrade to the new Apple TV for a feature that may not work in his setup or his TV can already output from the older Apple TV.

As a note I did originally misread the post as this being for a TV without HDR or 4K. Being that he has a 4K TV, go for it.
 
Don hesitate, upgrade. I have a 4K TV without HDR and the UHD content from Apple TV blows everything else out of the water. The detail, colour reproduction and smoothness in motion is above and beyond any 1080p content I've ever watched on the TV.
 
Thanks for the help folks - I’ve checked the Apple store for the country I’m living in and even though the 4K is shown and has a price, it is currently ‘Unavailable’

When I phoned Apple an asked when it would be available their response was “That’s a good question, we don’t know”

Ho hum - maybe I won’t be upgrading in the near future
 
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