Apple TV VS. TV/Receiver built in Airplay

[dsaponaro]

Hi all,

I recently upgraded to a new Samsung Series 8 UHD Tv as well as a Yamaha RX-A680 receiver for my home theatre set up and was wondering about the built in Airplay support for both units.

Is there anyway to disable Airplay on either unit? Reason I ask is that I am using an Apple TV 4K in the setup and feel its a far better experience. Basically I am looking to remove the Samsung TV and Yamaha Receiver from my Airplay target’s so as I only have my Apple TV 4K as an option to AirPlay to. Kind of redundant to have 3 separate targets and a bit More complex/confusing than it needs to be for those not familiar with the set up?

On the other side of the coin can anyone offer up a reason why one would prefer to use the receivers or TV’s Airplay instead of the Apple TV? Also, any benefit to using the built Apple TV app on the smart TV as opposed to my Apple TV 4K unit?

Hope this make sense! Thanks for reading.

-Dom

 

[cmaier]

Hi all,

I recently upgraded to a new Samsung Series 8 UHD Tv as well as a Yamaha RX-A680 receiver for my home theatre set up and was wondering about the built in Airplay support for both units.

Is there anyway to disable Airplay on either unit? Reason I ask is that I am using an Apple TV 4K in the setup and feel its a far better experience. Basically I am looking to remove the Samsung TV and Yamaha Receiver from my Airplay target’s so as I only have my Apple TV 4K as an option to AirPlay to. Kind of redundant to have 3 separate targets and a bit More complex/confusing than it needs to be for those not familiar with the set up?

On the other side of the coin can anyone offer up a reason why one would prefer to use the receivers or TV’s Airplay instead of the Apple TV? Also, any benefit to using the built Apple TV app on the smart TV as opposed to my Apple TV 4K unit?

Hope this make sense! Thanks for reading.

-Dom

It you’re just doing audio, the receiver method is pretty neat. I only figured out the other day that with my new Marantz receiver, if I send audio via airplay to the Marantz it powers the marantz on by itself, which save a couple of button presses on my home theater remote.

 

[waw74]

for audio, just the receiver is nice.

I used to have a denon that had airplay, I liked it because stereo sound coming from the tv had surround applied to it. which I don't like for music. Airplaying to the denon would come out just in regular stereo.
and as mentioned you don't need the TV on when you just want audio.

if you want to turn airplay on the TV off

How to stream from an iPhone using AirPlay 2

Whether you have playlists, pictures, or videos on your iPhone or iPad, you can now stream it all on your Samsung TV, Odyssey Ark gaming screen, and Smart Monitor. All you need is Airplay 2!

www.samsung.com

If you need to adjust some of your AirPlay 2 settings, you can do it directly on your TV. Just navigate to Settings, select General, and then select AirPlay Settings.
You will find the following options:
AirPlay: Selecting this option will turn the AirPlay feature on and off.

between the aTV and the receiver, it will have a different icon in the airplay list (an aTV and a speaker) so should make it a little less confusing.

 

[dsaponaro]

Thanks so much for the replys.

I probably should have included in the original post but I did try to go into the TV’s settings and “turned off” airplay as per Samsung’s instructions already. Unfortunately, this doesn’t do anything and the TV remains listed as an option when attempting to airplay either through mirroring or sending audio through Apple Music after “turning off”.

As for the receiver, I cant find any setting related to Airplay at all in any of the settings. Only thing I can do is change the “Network Name” which is Yamaha’s terminology and correlates to the name of the receiver in the Airplay menu. Seems like if the receiver is plugged in there’s always an airplay option. Not very granular and a bit heavy handed.

I do see the benefit of why someone would want to only stream audio without the TV. Though this could also be accomplished with just the Apple TV and keeping the TV off.

 

[waw74]

this doesn’t do anything and the TV remains listed as an option when attempting to airplay

Try rebooting all of your network and apple devices you have on the network. (airports, appletv, etc).
Sometimes they can hold on to things.

I'm not sure if the home app is coming into play here, if you've got the TV added to home, try removing it.
if that works, try adding it again with airplay disabled.

apple has a "feature" called sleep proxy. (although I'm not sure if it's included in newer versions of OS X)
When a device on your network go to sleep, Others will broadcast services for them. When someone requests something, the "other" device will wake up the sleeping device, and let the now awake device handle the request.

It's handy if you want to let your Mac go to sleep, but still access file sharing from another computer.

 

[dsaponaro]

Wanted to come back to this and see if anyone has further insight? I was finally able to get the TV's Airplay turned off by going through the steps above. Just took several minutes to finally update on my network. Still looking to turn off Airplay on the receiver now if possible.

To recap, Basically I am now looking to remove my Yamaha RX-A680 from my Airplay target’s so as I only have my Apple TV 4K as an option to AirPlay to. Kind of redundant to have both separate targets and a bit More complex/confusing than it needs to be for those not familiar with the set up?

I do see why some would prefer to have the option of audio only Airplay through the Receiver but I think I would just prefer to send to the Apple TV (which is connected to the receiver) while keeping the TV off.

Its just kind of surprising there isn't an obvious on/off setting for Airplay on the Receiver.

 

[mudflap]

Wanted to come back to this and see if anyone has further insight? I was finally able to get the TV's Airplay turned off by going through the steps above. Just took several minutes to finally update on my network. Still looking to turn off Airplay on the receiver now if possible.

To recap, Basically I am now looking to remove my Yamaha RX-A680 from my Airplay target’s so as I only have my Apple TV 4K as an option to AirPlay to. Kind of redundant to have both separate targets and a bit More complex/confusing than it needs to be for those not familiar with the set up?

I do see why some would prefer to have the option of audio only Airplay through the Receiver but I think I would just prefer to send to the Apple TV (which is connected to the receiver) while keeping the TV off.

Its just kind of surprising there isn't an obvious on/off setting for Airplay on the Receiver.

I am trying to figure out something similar! My Denon has AirPlay 2 but I much prefer the Apple TV interface. That way I can play music through Apple TV which goes to my Denon, but I can have the Apple TV screensaver on which is just the coolest.

I have iTunes Match, so if I tell my HomePod "Hey Siri, play the album Loveless by My Bloody Valentine, everywhere" it plays it on my iMac, my HomePod, but it defaults to my Denon instead of my Apple TV. I've tried switching it off in the Music app on my iMac but it doesn't work.

In the grand scheme of things I know this isn't really a problem per se, I just would rather look at a screensaver from my ATV in 4K Dolby Vision then the Denon's crappy 480p Airplay screen.

Anyone ever figure this out?