Apple Vision Pro is amazing. And I'm keeping it.

[riverfreak]

Maybe I’m old, but I’m actually amazed, impressed, and astounded by what Apple has managed to bring to market.

AVP blows my mind. Interface is simple, intuitive. I’m using it for real work. Everyday. It’s amazing. And then I take it off and enjoy my life.

I don’t buy things with the intent to return them. That’s ridiculous.

Please do realize that corporations track your behavior. For us olds, it doesn’t matter. For the young-uns/less-aware, you have been warned. People who track your credit also track your returns.

 

[Harry Haller]

Glad you’re enjoying it.
What real work if you don’t mind me asking?

 

[riverfreak]

Glad you’re enjoying it.
What real work if you don’t mind me asking?

Reading and responding to posts on Confluence; responding to queries on slack; zoom calls; data viz.

 

[bigjnyc]

Reading and responding to posts on Confluence; responding to queries on slack; zoom calls; data viz.

How has your persona been received in a professional environment on zoom calls?

I ask because I personally feel its fine for goofing around with friends and family on facetime. But a little weird in a professional work setting.

 

[Blackstick]

How has your persona been received in a professional environment on zoom calls?

I ask because I personally feel its fine for goofing around with friends and family on facetime. But a little weird in a professional work setting.

My coworkers are other engineers. They're indifferent. They aren't my customers.

If I was an attorney and had clients, it'd be very different.

 

[jigzaw]

I consider myself somewhat old (late 40's) but I wasn't aware that there was a penalty for returning an expensive item within a company's long-held return policy? If so, what form does this take? A hit on credit score? Might Apple actually not let you buy a future generation of AVP if you returned the first one? lol

I bought it with the intent to keep but for reasons I can go into elsewhere, I'm leaning towards returning. It would be quite astonishing if Apple gives me some sort of credit score hit or something in retaliation...?

 

[bigjnyc]

I consider myself somewhat old (late 40's) but I wasn't aware that there was a penalty for returning an expensive item within a company's long-held return policy? If so, what form does this take? A hit on credit score? Might Apple actually not let you buy a future generation of AVP if you returned the first one? lol

I bought it with the intent to keep but for reasons I can go into elsewhere, I'm leaning towards returning. It would be quite astonishing if Apple gives me some sort of credit score hit or something in retaliation...?

I've heard stories of certain stores/companies banning people from making any future purchases due to an abnormal amount of returns. I'm sure this has to be a drastic situation and should not affect most consumers. Perhaps thats what OP was getting at.

 

[jigzaw]

I've heard stories of certain stores/companies banning people from making any future purchases due to an abnormal amount of returns. I'm sure this has to be a drastic situation and should not affect most consumers. Perhaps thats what OP was getting at.

Makes sense. I would definitely not argue with that when it comes to abusing the policy, like if a YouTuber does it all the time just to make videos.

 

[3goldens]

I think it’s a bunch of bull! You have 14 days to return it and it spells out exactly what condition it has to be in. “Heard stories.”, what a load of crap.

 

[AirpodsNow]

How has your persona been received in a professional environment on zoom calls?

I ask because I personally feel its fine for goofing around with friends and family on facetime. But a little weird in a professional work setting.

I understand a lot is said about these persona things.... but I really wonder if video calling is such an important feature that it has so much coverage. It sometimes feels like the Memoji story that Apple started one year but in my circles I never really see people use it. Whereas the persona, I wonder on the list of things people use, is that really that important? Just asking myself.

 

[OriginalAppleGuy]

Maybe I’m old, but I’m actually amazed, impressed, and astounded by what Apple has managed to bring to market.

AVP blows my mind. Interface is simple, intuitive. I’m using it for real work. Everyday. It’s amazing. And then I take it off and enjoy my life.

I don’t buy things with the intent to return them. That’s ridiculous.

Please do realize that corporations track your behavior. For us olds, it doesn’t matter. For the young-uns/less-aware, you have been warned. People who track your credit also track your returns.

The thing about the Vision Pro is, the demos are extremely limited. They are 25-30 minutes with a nice chunk taken to fit and deliver the unit. When you go through the demo, they are horribly scripted. It's enough to pique interest. Not enough to truly understand if it will be valuable to you. If they allowed more time to demo and play around with it, I may have been more convinced if I bought it, I wouldn't consider returning it.

I think it’s a bunch of bull! You have 14 days to return it and it spells out exactly what condition it has to be in. “Heard stories.”, what a load of crap.

No sir! There are TONS of stories out there about this very subject. A company manages returns for stores. They monitor returns and will black ball you from buying at a store where you have a history of returning things. This same company handles Best Buy, Home Depot, and I believe Lowes among others. In one discussion, I read where if you buy from one Home Depot and return to another with some formula they use, you get blocked. If I'm not mistaken, there's a lot of fraud in returns and this company is supposed to help protect retailers.

Not saying the firm I'm talking about is hired buy Apple, but you never know. And no - don't remember the name, but you can google it and see for yourself.

I understand a lot is said about these persona things.... but I really wonder if video calling is such an important feature that it has so much coverage. It sometimes feels like the Memoji story that Apple started one year but in my circles I never really see people use it. Whereas the persona, I wonder on the list of things people use, is that really that important? Just asking myself.

With remote working, people need to feel connected. Many leaders push staff to turn on their cameras for this purpose. And body language is important. I did test persona's with 1.0 with a friend. We looked like cone heads. Decided to hit beta 1.1. Persona was greatly improved. Cone head gone. Used persona in a meeting with about 4 others, they made references to how I looked like a ghost. Which, if you've never seen it, isn't far from the truth.

 

[MockT]

Reading and responding to posts on Confluence; responding to queries on slack; zoom calls; data viz.

Gee, no wonder. There was no way to do this before.

 

[3goldens]

💯💯💯💯💯

 

[AirpodsNow]

No sir! There are TONS of stories out there about this very subject. A company manages returns for stores. They monitor returns and will black ball you from buying at a store where you have a history of returning things. This same company handles Best Buy, Home Depot, and I believe Lowes among others. In one discussion, I read where if you buy from one Home Depot and return to another with some formula they use, you get blocked. If I'm not mistaken, there's a lot of fraud in returns and this company is supposed to help protect retailers.

I was told (as a not American) that there is a lot of televisions returned after the Super Bowl. (also a lot of them are bought just before....). Also there is quite some tricks people play in some countries with returns by swapping parts and return the entire unit. I believe when Apple went to China with their stores, a lot of iPhones got returned with 'other parts', I would guess that's also part why they keep making it such a pain to serialise / pair parts in their products. there is always some loss in doing business with returns, it's the question of course what percentage of sales .... not all customers are that honest (e.g. buy an item but return it with your old item the twas broken for instance, claiming it was dead on arrival).

 

[HDFan]

There are TONS of stories out there about this very subject.

There have been quite a few threads about Apple returns and the gist of most of them is just the opposite. Think there was one mention of 7 returns within a short period of time with no problem. Probably does occur but don't remember any posts saying "could not return as Apple says I have done too many returns".

 

[OriginalAppleGuy]

There have been quite a few threads about Apple returns and the gist of most of them is just the opposite. Think there was one mention of 7 returns within a short period of time with no problem. Probably does occur but don't remember any posts saying "could not return as Apple says I have done too many returns".

True. But it does happen in the retail world. The person who first mentioned this was making a point where it could happen, as it has in other retail spaces. Which someone else rebuffed that the idea of such behavior was ludicrous. My reply was just to back up the OP on that.

Thing about data is it rarely just disappears. Policies change. Doubt Apple shares return data with anyone, including any retail alliances, but if they eventually did, that past history could come to haunt those that take advantage of it.

My personal take is Apple won't hold anyone accountable for returning the VP. It's new to many. The demos aren't refined and too short. The feedback they get from people returning them is invaluable. Some complaints may be rectified swiftly through software updates. Others with future designs.