Hi ya'll. Can I access files on my Mac OS 9 PPC from my macOS Catalina system? Obviously...I doubt Appletalk exists anymore on modern Macs...but is there a way to network and access files on my os 9 system and vice versa?
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AppleTalk - macOS Cataline and OS 9?
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Urgh, ignore my ignorant question. Can be done by FTP:
No, you can also share with SheepShaver on Catalina and OS 9
I think you can also use a SMB software under OS9 to share with Catalina (Dave?)
No, you can also share with SheepShaver on Catalina and OS 9
I think you can also use a SMB software under OS9 to share with Catalina (Dave?)
How can sheepshaver run since its 32bit ? Catalina took away 32-bit.
Then download the 64 bit version
I’ve used sheepshaver in the past just for giggles - I always found os 9 crashed often.
I have zero use For OS 9 - but I actually like to fire up ma lil PowerMac everyone once in a while and boot into 9 to remind myself of the good old days (which were not actually so good...)
I always preferred the interface in os 9, over X - not sure why, think it’s really understated and not in your face, which is actually how an OS should be.
Actually whilst on this subject... I remember back during those days we used to laugh at windows with all of its notifications/pop ups/requests to restart and install updates...THE NOTIFICATION CENTRE IN macOS IS THE MOST jarringly annoying thing I’ve ever used - I basically disable app notifications because every little thing is broadcast to me (e.g. the nextiTunes song started to play, or Sonos started the next track, or my screen time, or every single text message is displayed whilst I’m trying to use excel - go away).
going to go to bed before thinking about macos notification centre gives me a headache...
I have zero use For OS 9 - but I actually like to fire up ma lil PowerMac everyone once in a while and boot into 9 to remind myself of the good old days (which were not actually so good...)
I always preferred the interface in os 9, over X - not sure why, think it’s really understated and not in your face, which is actually how an OS should be.
Actually whilst on this subject... I remember back during those days we used to laugh at windows with all of its notifications/pop ups/requests to restart and install updates...THE NOTIFICATION CENTRE IN macOS IS THE MOST jarringly annoying thing I’ve ever used - I basically disable app notifications because every little thing is broadcast to me (e.g. the nextiTunes song started to play, or Sonos started the next track, or my screen time, or every single text message is displayed whilst I’m trying to use excel - go away).
going to go to bed before thinking about macos notification centre gives me a headache...
I have mine set to "Do Not Disturb" all the time for that same reason. I hate it.
Catalina still has AFP, though I’m pretty sure OS 9 cannot connect to it’s shares. However I think Catalina could connect to a share hosted on OS 9. I haven’t tried this, but I have a FreeNAS server setup with an AFP that I can access on every Mac OS version, I’ve used it from 9.2 all the way up to 10.15.x and it works perfect.
AFP shares hosted on 10.5.8 are also accessible in Catalina and OS 9.
AFP shares hosted on 10.5.8 are also accessible in Catalina and OS 9.
Ok I’m definitely posting in the wrong thread but I’m sure you guys will know.
I pulled my iMac out of the attic this afternoon. (Lockdown is making me revisit everything I have up there...).
17” iMac G4 - the final model (PowerMac6,1). Supports 1gb ram andunofficially supports 2gb. Today upgraded it from 512 mb to 2gb. I’ve ordered a 250gb ssd with an IDE adapter.
final thing, when I originally got it, never had an AirPort Extreme - only Ethernet, obviously.
do you know which AirPort Extreme card I need (trying to order off of eBay) - also, will that card include Bluetooth capabilities? So excited about my next little project 😍
I pulled my iMac out of the attic this afternoon. (Lockdown is making me revisit everything I have up there...).
17” iMac G4 - the final model (PowerMac6,1). Supports 1gb ram andunofficially supports 2gb. Today upgraded it from 512 mb to 2gb. I’ve ordered a 250gb ssd with an IDE adapter.
final thing, when I originally got it, never had an AirPort Extreme - only Ethernet, obviously.
do you know which AirPort Extreme card I need (trying to order off of eBay) - also, will that card include Bluetooth capabilities? So excited about my next little project 😍
Just so sad it does not boot into os 9 - I’m still fascinated and obsessed with pre unix Mac OS to this very day!
I have zero use For OS 9 - but I actually like to fire up ma lil PowerMac everyone once in a while and boot into 9 to remind myself of the good old days (which were not actually so good...) - Explain.. I thought the 2000's were great when a once clean internet was easy to browse compared to todays, if I had my way in the world, I would go back to those days as it was simpler.
I think the classic interface is one of my most favourite versions of a GUI ever! But, what I noticed recently is if you try doing anything with multiple apps open at once, the OS simply can't cope. For example, I had Word open whilst I was fiddling about with graphpad prism - just was not able to rapidly switch between the two apps, but at the time this is something I would've never noticed or been upset by. It's only since using MacOS (and know thatMS had pre-emtpive multi-tasking years before the Mac) that I realise how long the original Mac architecture had been dragged out way too long....
...yes I do remember they tried to address all of this years before with the development of the ill-fated Copeland...
Oh yeah, I got Windows 95 for a very early computer back when I was a kid, a 486 75mhz DX if memory serves, and it could absolutely multitask, especially once it had 32 mb of ram. Using a Mac after that felt like being dragged into the past as the years went on, and my school had Macs in computer labs, so it wasn't like I could avoid them.
There's irony in the fact that I bought the last Mac officially supported by OS 9. It really is a good system for 90's retro gaming, though, and the moment I think about Windows from the same era, I have nightmares about IRQ setups. God, I don't miss that at all.
And besides, 80%-90% can be done in Classic anyway. That's the best of both worlds right there. The likes of Tiger and Leopard really do have management and migration tools that put the likes of XP and Vista to shame. It's all tradeoffs, you pick and choose your battles, I get to do something I didn't really grow up with, and play the same or better ports of the games I did grow up with. For the most part.
(Civilization 2 really didn't get done right by the Mac ports, but that's mostly down to not getting all the expansions, even if those were all 16-bit on Windows until the Multiplayer Gold version, which was broken in its own right. I don't know if those issues are in the Mac Multiplayer Gold version, but the music is broken in basically all of the Mac versions, because CD audio seems to be a disaster on Mac, so again, it's all kind of a mess 25 years later, and now I'm rambling)
As the others said: FTP
You can make both the os9 and macOS an FTP-server.
You may also share files through webDAV. - I'd personally use an external storage outside of the os9 machine, so in case of system-failure of the old hardware, files are still save.
Here's a list of apps for os9-connectivity ... #9
I use Catalina (latest) on my MacBook Pro and my desktop. I use Mac OS 9 on a couple of old PowerBook G4s, PowerMacintosh G4s and iBook G3s. (And System 7 on an old Quadra 700, a Performa all-in-one and a PowerMacintosh 9500/180MP, but they're currently in storage.)
They all connect to one network, and serving/routing them all is an old, massive HP ProLiant machine running FreeBSD 12. The BSD machine serves as a general file server as well as Time Machine for the newer machines in the household. TM requires AppleTalk and it works pretty well. I can read/write files from both my new computers and my artifacts through the server.
You can setup your server in a virtual machine if you don't have/like to use a dedicated box.
I can even imagine a Raspberry Pi making a suitable server for lightweight tasks.
They all connect to one network, and serving/routing them all is an old, massive HP ProLiant machine running FreeBSD 12. The BSD machine serves as a general file server as well as Time Machine for the newer machines in the household. TM requires AppleTalk and it works pretty well. I can read/write files from both my new computers and my artifacts through the server.
You can setup your server in a virtual machine if you don't have/like to use a dedicated box.
I can even imagine a Raspberry Pi making a suitable server for lightweight tasks.
Indeed, the UI is fantastic and completely distraction-free. And you're absolutely right, Mac OS 9 and its predecessors did not multitask well at all. (And the irony here is that we've gone from multitasking back to singletasking with our phones and tablets!) But there really is something special about a truly distraction-free environment.
Yes, I want to add what I mentioned before. OS 9 and previous operating systems for me were truly fantastic - zero annoying popups. The early days of OS X were also ok (10.0-10.3 were sluggish, os 10.4 was perfection, 10.5 awful (in my opinion) 10.6 snow leopard almost near perfection) however from Leopard onwards Mac OS X has lost something for me, and for years I didn't realise what it was because the changes were so slow.
Then I realised what it was - the gradual introduction of increasingly obnoxious notification settings and the slow transition from an open platform, to what I really believe will one day be a system that only allows apps installed from the App Store - and the day that happens is the day I burn my boxer-shorts and throw my Mac out of the window...(ok definitely not doing either of those things...)
What was optimised by the time of OS 9 e.g. a beautiful GUI with no distractions, has been slowly turned into the most annoying and distracting interface ever. We used to laugh at windows users with their constant notifications and distracting GUI with all of its stupid messages and requests. Now we suffer worse than windows users...
I have just had two ciders, so perhaps I am over-exaggerating...
Case in point - I just upgraded my main box to Mojave and when selecting lots of files in Finder to open in one go, a pop up asks "Do you really want to open N items?" - Yes, of course I do! El Capitan just shut up and did what it was told.