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iolinux333

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In iOS 7 only the "Late Night" EQ setting works for all audio output, including streaming players like Songza and Spotify. I was wondering if anyone could do a quick check if any of the other settings under settings>music>EQ work globally now too, or is it still only the Late Night setting that works.

TIA!
 
In iOS 7 only the "Late Night" EQ setting works for all audio output, including streaming players like Songza and Spotify. I was wondering if anyone could do a quick check if any of the other settings under settings>music>EQ work globally now too, or is it still only the Late Night setting that works.

TIA!

Wow, I never knew about that. I did just check, and as of the latest iOS 8 beta (beta 3), only the Late Night EQ setting works with another app. (I used the Beats Music app to test)
 
Wow, I never knew about that. I did just check, and as of the latest iOS 8 beta (beta 3), only the Late Night EQ setting works with another app. (I used the Beats Music app to test)

Darn! I was so hoping they would finally let the rest work globally too. I wonder why not? I just can't come up with a good reason... or any reason at all for just one?
 
Darn! I was so hoping they would finally let the rest work globally too. I wonder why not? I just can't come up with a good reason... or any reason at all for just one?

I would reason that the others are not available because they could degrade quality of other items. For example if you chose an EQ with certain settings that reduced voices then watching a TV show would be a poor experience. Some users may have forgotten they have changed it and would possibly take it back to Apple to ask why the sound is really bad or tinny etc. If they enabled all of them it could also mean that the user would have no 'quick' way of switching back to normal sound output if there is something important that needs to be played.

I know its not the greatest reasons but I feel that Late Night mode being a dynamic EQ setting (e.g. it reacts based on the high and lows rather than just applying a setting for each hertz range) it seems the only possible one that could work in all audio playback.
 
I would reason that the others are not available because they could degrade quality of other items. For example if you chose an EQ with certain settings that reduced voices then watching a TV show would be a poor experience. Some users may have forgotten they have changed it and would possibly take it back to Apple to ask why the sound is really bad or tinny etc. If they enabled all of them it could also mean that the user would have no 'quick' way of switching back to normal sound output if there is something important that needs to be played.

I know its not the greatest reasons but I feel that Late Night mode being a dynamic EQ setting (e.g. it reacts based on the high and lows rather than just applying a setting for each hertz range) it seems the only possible one that could work in all audio playback.


Can you explain the late night setting a bit better? I think I read once that it was actually a compressor rather than passive EQ? Is that true?
 
Can you explain the late night setting a bit better? I think I read once that it was actually a compressor rather than passive EQ? Is that true?

Sure I am by no means an expert on this but from what I understand it does the following:

With the lower volume sounds (bass and treble) it will apply an amplification to raise them up. This is not just a volume increase, it does do some changes to each range. Alongside this any higher volume sounds are reduced (again with a particular eq setting for the ranges). The result is that you get a normalised song that helps to balance out those wide range songs and sounds. You hear this as though bass is a little louder and treble or high pitched noises are a little quieter.

As far as I am aware this is the only EQ setting that does this based on dynamically altering the sounds rather than applying a standard change to each range of sounds.
 
Sure I am by no means an expert on this but from what I understand it does the following:

With the lower volume sounds (bass and treble) it will apply an amplification to raise them up. This is not just a volume increase, it does do some changes to each range. Alongside this any higher volume sounds are reduced (again with a particular eq setting for the ranges). The result is that you get a normalised song that helps to balance out those wide range songs and sounds. You hear this as though bass is a little louder and treble or high pitched noises are a little quieter.

As far as I am aware this is the only EQ setting that does this based on dynamically altering the sounds rather than applying a standard change to each range of sounds.


Excellent. That is more in line with what my particular set of ears has been experiencing. It didn't really sound like compression/limiting to me, your explanation makes more sense.
 
They should put "Late Night" in a separate category if it is a more advanced EQ and maybe add a custom EQ option where you can set up a graphic EQ.
 
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